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atimeforeverything
Joined: 01 Nov 2007
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Location: Busan, South Korea
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 Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 6:35 pm Post subject: Pay Rates |
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Hey all, how is 6,000 pesos for 36 working hours a week? This is w/housing provided for by the school.
Im basically trying to figure out how much I need to live comfortably.
Thanks! |
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Guy Courchesne
Joined: 10 Mar 2003
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Location: Mexico City
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| Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 8:08 pm Post subject: Re: Pay Rates |
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| atimeforeverything wrote: |
Hey all, how is 6,000 pesos for 36 working hours a week? This is w/housing provided for by the school.
Im basically trying to figure out how much I need to live comfortably.
Thanks! |
That's not a great deal of money per hour, but if housing is paid, it's better.
Where in Mexico will you be? Cost-of-living varies a fair bit from place to place. |
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atimeforeverything
Joined: 01 Nov 2007
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Ixtlan Del Rio is the name of the town, somewhere between Tepic and Guadalajara.
I'm thinking since it is a small town, the cost of living should be lower.... |
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MO39
Joined: 28 Jan 2004
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Location: El ombligo de la Rep�blica Mexicana
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| Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 9:57 pm Post subject: Re: Pay Rates |
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| atimeforeverything wrote: |
Hey all, how is 6,000 pesos for 36 working hours a week? This is w/housing provided for by the school.
Im basically trying to figure out how much I need to live comfortably.
Thanks! |
Is that 36 teaching hours a week? If it is, it sounds like a lot of work for not much money, even with housing thrown in. You should ask for details about the housing - will you have to share? Is it just a room or a whole apartment? I'm not trying to discourage you from taking this job, just don't want you to end up in an unpleasant situation. I assume that the school will take care of getting you your working papers. |
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TheLongWayHome
Joined: 07 Jun 2006
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Location: San Luis Piojosi
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| Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 10:09 pm Post subject: Re: Pay Rates |
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| atimeforeverything wrote: |
Hey all, how is 6,000 pesos for 36 working hours a week? This is w/housing provided for by the school.
Im basically trying to figure out how much I need to live comfortably.
Thanks! |
Sounds like slave wages to me. Small towns are not necessarily cheaper to live in, especially if they rely on tourism. 36 hours is a lot of teaching, not to mention preparation time. Can you negociate it up to $8,000? |
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atimeforeverything
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I should have explained more...its supposedly 36 hours working, with 28 hours max teaching. The other hours are supposedly spent marketing and the like.
Apparently there is little preparation for classes. |
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MO39
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| Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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| atimeforeverything wrote: |
I should have explained more...its supposedly 36 hours working, with 28 hours max teaching. The other hours are supposedly spent marketing and the like.
Apparently there is little preparation for classes. |
I'd be extremely leery of working for a school that expects its teachers to spend time on marketing but not on preparation!
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Guy Courchesne
Joined: 10 Mar 2003
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| Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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| marketing and the like. |
Red flag.
Small towns have lower cost-of-living yes, but the biggest savings is often the housing. Everything else may be more expensive than the cities, such as transportation, food, entertainment.
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| Can you negociate it up to $8,000? |
Good idea...if you can't, consider passing. You can find better deals elsewhere.
It might also help if you told us a bit about you...your background, experience, qualifications, goals, etc/ |
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dixie
Joined: 23 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 11:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Is this a language school or an elementary / prepa school? Because, if it is the latter, than walk away or get more money. |
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atimeforeverything
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| Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 11:38 pm Post subject: |
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ive got a bachelors degree, TESOL cert from TEFL International, and have taught for 6 months in thailand. and im awesome. 
yeah, it is a language school, not an elementary.
i must be doing something really wrong w/this job hunting stuff. nothing seems to work out.
so you guys think 8,000 is a fair request?
they said marketing will be involved bc its a newer branch of a school, and so they may not have a full schedule of classes.
i really appreciate everybodys help. |
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Guy Courchesne
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| they said marketing will be involved bc its a newer branch of a school, and so they may not have a full schedule of classes. |
Another red flag. If you take the job, make sure your monthly salary is guaranteed, and not a guestimate based on hours, which may be susceptible to cancellations. |
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Samantha
Joined: 25 Oct 2003
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I doubt very much a new language school in this location can afford to pay it's teachers $8000.00 pesos plus provide housing. I read the advertising blurb written by the school you mentioned in another thread. It sounds like the school is strictly winging it with "no lesson planning", "conversation based" classes, "evolving curriculum", and "the material is made using the newest methods available". Some red flags there. The salary would be the least of my worries after reading the job description and what you've told us.
Did they cover the topic of the FM3 work permit with you at all? You mentioned not having a savings reserve in one of your other posts, so it's very important to verify how soon after you start any job you will be seeing your pay and if they will be helping you with Immigration. We have heard horror stories of teachers arriving and not being paid for one or two months or even not at all if there are permanent complications with getting a work permit. |
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Jetgirly
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| It sounds like the school is strictly winging it with "no lesson planning", "conversation based" classes, "evolving curriculum", and "the material is made using the newest methods available". Some red flags there. The salary would be the least of my worries after reading the job description and what you've told us. |
I've been there (but not in Mexico) - just because the school tells you that you'll be teaching "conversation classes" doesn't mean that will be what the students are expecting. If you seriously show up for class without preparing anything, and expect to be able to think up enough stuff to talk about for twenty-eight teaching hours per week, you'll crash and burn in the first week! I found that "conversation classes" required the most preparation, because you usually don't have a textbook, videos, etc. for support. A ninety-minute lesson can feel like a lifetime if you and your student don't have anything to say! Imagine making small talk for twenty-eight hours each week, and you'll get the idea. |
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GueroPaz
Joined: 07 Sep 2007
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Location: Thailand or Mexico
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| Being in Thailand still, I'm curious why you're moving to Mexico. Also, I'll ask this since I don't know the answer: do Mexican employers think that six months' experience is enough? I have about two years, but I don't plan to work for an employer. |
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TheLongWayHome
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| Also, I'll ask this since I don't know the answer: do Mexican employers think that six months' experience is enough? I have about two years, but I don't plan to work for an employer. |
Depends. Unis, probably not but private language schools, depending on how desperate they are will hire people with 6 months' experience. I've seen people hired from abroad with no teaching experience and an online cert... this is Mexico, everything is possible. Right, place, right time. |
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