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nickelgoat
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773
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| If you have a job-related Masters in the UAE, there is no need for a CELTA. Mid-East experience is preferred by many / most employers to be sure, but not essential. I know many without previous experience in the region nor a CELTA / TEFL cert. |
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veiledsentiments
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| Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 2:12 pm Post subject: |
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The best way to find out what you are eligible for is to send off our applications and see what happens. With a ESL-related MA, there is no need for a CELTA.
Some of the international schools would probably hire you, but without a specific education certificate from your home country, you would likely not be hired by the best places.
Your best bet would be the universities. Be sure to stress your Academic English teaching - NOT conversation - as reading/writing is what they are looking for. Again your limited experience will be a bit of a drawback for some of the best places. But, the key is to get in the door and build a better CV.
VS
(PS: there are few jobs in Bahrain... you never see any ads. More opportunities in Oman than Bahrain - and certainly a better lifestyle IMHO) |
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007
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| Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 2:24 pm Post subject: |
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| veiledsentiments wrote: |
| The best way to find out what you are eligible for is to send off our applications and see what happens. |
VS, are you seriously thinking of applying for jobs in the Middle East?  |
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veiledsentiments
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Been there, done that...
...and allowed typos just like everyone else.
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grahamb
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| Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 4:07 pm Post subject: Speling misteaks? |
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Maybe it was a Freudian slip.  |
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Tiger Beer
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| Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 8:28 am Post subject: |
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| veiledsentiments wrote: |
| (PS: there are few jobs in Bahrain... you never see any ads. More opportunities in Oman than Bahrain - and certainly a better lifestyle IMHO) |
I don't know the Middle East, but I always got the impression that Bahrain was second best to UAE for all around living.
What is about Oman that gives it all around better lifestyle? Just curious, as I'm trying to educate myself in this. |
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grahamb
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| Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 1:07 pm Post subject: What's so good about Oman? |
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| In a nutshell, the Omani people. |
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veiledsentiments
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Definitely the Omani people are great, but the Bahrainis are also nice. Again it is the effect of not rolling in petrodollars. Both peoples actually have to work for a living which helps to lower the arrogance levels.
The other major factor is the difference between the two countries geographically. Bahrain is a small island and you can see everything in a day and a half. There is not much to see in that part of Saudi on the other side of the bridge but oil establishments if you can even get a visa to visit there. (forget that idea any single women) Whereas Oman is miles of gorgeous empty beaches and looming mountains sprinkled with oasis and villages that invite campers and hikers. For a change of atmosphere it is a short drive to the Emirates.
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scot47
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| But KSA is good for misogynists. No danger of a female boss here - unless you are a female. |
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thrifty
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| Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 6:01 am Post subject: |
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| veiledsentiments wrote: |
There is not much to see in that part of Saudi on the other side of the bridge but oil establishments
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Not true. |
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veiledsentiments
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Compared to Oman... no it doesn't. But perhaps, you haven't been to Oman.
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007
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| veiledsentiments wrote: |
Bahrain is a small island and you can see everything in a day and a half. There is not much to see in that part of Saudi on the other side of the bridge but oil establishments if you can even get a visa to visit there. (forget that idea any single women) Whereas Oman is miles of gorgeous empty beaches and looming mountains sprinkled with oasis and villages that invite campers and hikers. For a change of atmosphere it is a short drive to the Emirates.
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Of course Bahrain is a little tiny small island, and you need a magnifier of X1000 to locate Bahrain in the map of the Middle East.
Do you know that:
The area of Saudi Arabia = 2149000 km2
and the area of Bahrain is 665 km2 !!!!
which means;
Area of Saudi Arabia = 3232 times the area of Bahrain, and 7 times the area of Oman!!
So, if you need a day and a half to see everything in Bahrain, then by analogy and proportionality, you need at least 90 days to see everything (and there are lot of them) in Saudi Arabia.
I have been to all countries of the Gulf, and I can tell you that Saudi Arabia has things which do not exist in other tiny and 'epsilon' countries of the Gulf like Bahrain, Oman and UAE. Saudi Arabia has miles and miles of empty beaches, both in the Red sea and the Arabian Gulf, and has different types of mountains and desert, and the famous �Empty Quarter�, where nobody can survive, except the Eagles and King Cobra snakes
In addition, in Saudi you will see different tribes and mixed traditions and cultures from the North to the South, and from East to the Ouest.
Of course, Saudi has a lot of interesting historical and cultural sites to visit and see, except that for the tourist have to respect the local culture and everything will be OK.
BTW, in Saudi there are villages that invite campers and divers, and offer them pure honey with white coffer and free BBQ. |
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thrifty
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| veiledsentiments wrote: |
Compared to Oman... no it doesn't. But perhaps, you haven't been to Oman.
VS |
Wrong on both counts, you obviously haven't been to the Eastern Province. |
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veiledsentiments
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Oh yes... it is full of looming mountain ranges and villages full of friendly people who will serve you tea... all within an hour or less of Bahrain. From what I heard from people who lived there, it was "kuwait scenic."
That fact is that Oman has everything that 007 mentioned for Saudi except that it is compacted into a smaller space that one can easily do in weekend trips... and I, as a woman, can drive my car to any and all spots in the country... without ever having to cross a national border.
Hardly a comparison.
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