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[killian]

Teaching kindergarden in Taiwan is illegal if you are a foreigner. Raids are being made. Teachersd are being deported.

Yeah, yeah...if you run a search for "taiwan kindergarden"on the search engine at www.eslcafe using dates such as 02Dec2003 through 04Feb2004 you will come up with approximately 302 matches.

The jobs are illegal. Fly over on YOUR dime. find out that the work permit you are promised is invalid/skirts the law. live with it.

BUT...there are 302 hits on this site alone. for illegal work. how? why?

because the english school industry is a huge money maker, both in taiwan and on the internet. internet sites (often, not always) charge fees for schools to place ads. a certain site we are familiar with charges about 75 US per ad. that such ads are for illegal jobs is moot to the website operator. 75 X 302= a nice wad of dough, especially for illegal jobs that'll get you deported and leave you outside the protection of the law.

to be forewarned is to be forearmed. delete teaching taiwan kindergarden from your job possibilities. perhaps, ethically, website operators who are now aware that such jobs are illegal will also stop advertising for them.

[matchstick_man]

a lot of kindergarten owners know ways around it....I have a friend who while in Taiwan taught kindergarten and the kindergarten provided him with an ARC.

[naturegirl321]

If it's illegal, how come lots of people teaching kindergarten get ARCs and work visas?

[brian]

[EOD]

[Taylor]

The last line of that news article stated: "4000 additional English teachers would be provided for the extended program."

Considering how disorganized everything is in Taiwan, can you imagine how this will work out????

LMAO

Clint
(Kaohsiung, 7+years)

[Aristotle]

The Work Advisory/Warning has been out for over a month. It contains a very good recommendation but of course it is just that, a recommendation. I would strongly suggest that people take a second look at it an re-evaluate their current situation.
http://www.geocities.com/taiwanteacher2002/WorkAdvisoryWarning.html
Good Luck,
A.

[senor boogie woogie]

Hola!

I worked at a Taiwan kindy in Hsinchu, I was farmed there by David's English Center.

I like kiddies, but I would of loved to have nailed David's English to the proverbial wall. They screwed up my ARC too.

Senor

[Aristotle]

[jason_seeburn]

[quote="brian"]

[jason_seeburn]

[Okami]

[senor boogie woogie]

Hola!

Not too much to tell. David's English was horrid. I worked at one of the branches in Hsinchu, it was on top of a McDonalds, that's all I remember. what really sucks about David's is that they would find all the work and got paid all the money through your labor. They were just pimping the teachers out.

1.) I did work at a local kindergarten, and that school paid David's for my services.

2.) David's forced me to buy a motorbike for jobs outside the school even though I lacked a license and have not ridden a motorbike in over 15 years.

3.) They effectively cheated me out of two days pay. they paid from the first to the last of the month, I worked two days into the next month before I got into a motorbike accident. I already told the female boss that I hated her school and I am putting in notice.

4.) Their contract stipulates that they hold the first 1/2 months pay for a deposit. Deposit for what? I paid the airfare, I paid for my housing, I even paid for that damned bike that I did not want tin the first place, plus the fuel and maintenance.

David's s u c k s a donkey. Need I say more?

Senor

[jason_seeburn]

[brian]

As usual Okami is correct. These changes have been spoken about at some length by those who are most affected by them - the owners and managers of schools. Many teachers don't have direct exposure to this sort of information, and often the first that we find out about it is when problems occcur, such as work permits getting refused unexpectedly. Some have suggested that this is because a BA degree is no longer adequate. The real reason though seems to be because the school that you are applying through has already reached their quota. If they haven't been keeping abreast of changes then they too may misunderstand the rejection, not realizing that their previous quota of teachers has recently been reduced. They then mistakenly pass on the word to teachers that their application was rejected because of some other problem.

It just goes to show how quickly knowledge of what goes on in Taiwan becomes outdated, once one is no longer directly involved in the industry. Surely, individuals who post 'information' on this board should ensure that their knowledge has not become redundant, before they post it. This seems reasonable doesn't it!