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gkg40
Joined: 29 Oct 2007 Posts: 1
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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 3:48 pm Post subject: Age restrictions on hiring |
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Does anyone know if there are age restrictions, written of unwritten, on hiring ESL teachers in Japan? I thought I read that some places dont want to hire teachers over 30. Is this the norm or a rare cae?
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southofreality
Joined: 12 Feb 2007 Posts: 579 Location: Tokyo
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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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I've known quite a few people who were hired for the first time to teach here in Japan in their 30's. I actually know of two people hired in their 50's.
Hey, fatChris, didn't you say you were 33 when you got picked up by JET? |
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drifter13

Joined: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 124 Location: Fujisawa
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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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I know people that have been hired that are older than thirty, and also one person in their fifties. But as always, with the flood of current teachers in the market now, schools now have the pick of the litter, and can really choose as they please. Still experience and the right look can probably compensate for any over 30 age issues, unless the school is dead set on hiring 20 somethings. |
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dreamtolive
Joined: 04 Nov 2007 Posts: 15
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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 4:19 am Post subject: |
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HI there, I remember recently hearing about how statistics really have nothing to do with individuals. Yes the majority of teachers are probably in their twenties, but it doesn't mean you won't find a teaching position if you are older....
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 5:54 am Post subject: |
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JET programme has a limit of 40 on its ALTs, but even JET says that might be flexible, depending on circumstances.
Universities have usually set an age limit (often at 35, but sometimes at other ages). JRECIN, a prime web site for uni jobs, has just declared there will be no ads on its site with age limits in them.
Working holiday visa holders have to abide by a certain age limit.
Other than that, the notion that you can't get a teaching job if you are over 30 is an urban myth. It comes from the fact that many of the more popular eikaiwa want to portray (usually in their ads) images of youthful, exhuberant, exhilarating, exciting, and interesting teachers. They don't show the fact that they still hire people in their 50s and 60s (not that such ages don't exhibit any of those previous adjectives, of course). |
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J.
Joined: 03 May 2003 Posts: 327
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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:21 am Post subject: |
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Glenski wrote, quite rightly:
"...more popular eikaiwa want to portray (usually in their ads) images of youthful, exuberant, exhilarating, exciting, and interesting teachers"
(ie trying to sell sex appeal in the absence of a good curriculum and teaching experience) -- 'cause that worked so well for Nova.
There's a new law that prohibits job ads with age limits. About time! |
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 9:08 pm Post subject: |
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J. wrote: |
There's a new law that prohibits job ads with age limits. About time! |
I'm not sure if it's a law or just JRECIN's policy, but in any case, the fact that ages cannot be expressed in an advertisement doesn't mean that an employer won't have a preconceived age limit and use that behind closed doors.
Offhand, before my morning caffeine, I'd have to say that this new policy will simply allow more people to apply to jobs. I haven't seen that many ads for non-university work stating an age limit, so that probably won't change. But for uni jobs, it probably will. Whether that produces any positive results, I don't know. |
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silvercat
Joined: 02 Nov 2007 Posts: 10 Location: Nagoya
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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 3:21 am Post subject: |
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I recently applied for a job (with ECC) which required a group interview and found that there were actually many people over the age of 30, one or two were even over forty. Of those who were eventually hired, there was only myself and one other guy that were actually in our twenties. The interviewer even remarked that I was very young at the age of 22. So from this experience I would say that it is very possible for older people to be hired in ESL Eikaiwa positions. This may depend on the company though... |
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Lyrajean
Joined: 19 Jul 2006 Posts: 109 Location: going to Okinawa
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Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 12:13 pm Post subject: |
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In my 30's and on JET. Met several at orientation who are over 30. |
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gaijin4life
Joined: 23 Sep 2006 Posts: 150 Location: Westside of the Eastside, Japan
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Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 11:46 pm Post subject: |
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- Oh my goodness ! Could this possibly mean that some employers are actually choosing to look at the 'skills '(heaven-forbid) or 'qualities' a person can bring to the job, rather than just the image ... !
And what J. said -
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(ie trying to sell sex appeal in the absence of a good curriculum and teaching experience) -- 'cause that worked so well for Nova. |
heh heh  |
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J.
Joined: 03 May 2003 Posts: 327
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 3:20 am Post subject: |
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Children,
Over 30 is old?
I want to see some of these places recruiting people over 60, because of their wealth of work and life experiences. When they start doing that then I'll believe the age of the teachers is no object. After all, they should fit right in with the aging populations of most countries, including Japan.
The only reason the universities are worried about hiring older teachers is that they have to pay them more because of a rather old-fashioned pay structure. Do away with that and they shouldn't be worried about the age of teachers, if the Japanese staff's ages are anything to go by. |
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