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11:59



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 10:50 am    Post subject: Latin anyone? Reply with quote

http://www.classifiedpost.com/jscommunity.php?communitycode=EDU&lcid=HK.EN&jobpage=12

This really takes the biscuit � it's totally absurd. As if after school interview technique lessons at hack tutorial centres for what are essentially infants was not enough, it now seems that some twisted Hong Kongers desire that their primary school-aged kids have private Latin lessons, of all things. Now, perhaps someone could enlighten me, why on Earth would � or could � any boy aged 7 anywhere in the world require a Latin tutor, let alone a kid of this age in Hong Kong? This is just another example of parents pushing their offspring to breaking point with useless and pointless knowledge for the sake of it, to 'get ahead', to give their kid 'a head start' (read, 'to deny them any childhood').

To paraphrase Cat Stevens, when and where do the children play?
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hkteach



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agree totally with the comments about kids being pushed to breaking point and denying them a childhood. In Hong Kong childhood ends at the beginning of primary school, but kids are put into training for that time during their pre-school years when they carry backpacks loaded with books.
Primary 1 students get hours of homework a night as well as attendance at English centre, music class etc. etc.
When school holidays arrive, what do the kids get? Yep - piles of homework (enough worksheets and textbook exercises to keep them busy 'learning' during the break).

Last year, I witnessed a primary one student standing at the teacher's desk every day from 3.30 till 5 doing his homework. WHY? because he was 'too lazy' to do it at home. The fact that he didn't understand it became clear to me when I tried to help him with the English exercise, but this fact seemed to escape both his teacher and his mother (who incidentally had kept him up till midnight to force him to do it.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ) This child was 6 years old. Child abuse in my view.

Play? well that comes a very poor last I'm afraid. It's a waste of time - time that could be better spent 'learning' (drill and rote learning of facts)

Yes indeed, Hong Kong is a very cruel place for children.
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Smoog



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 7:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe his parents have invented a Time Machine and are planning to go to Ancient Greece for Easter.
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abusalam4



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 10:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Latin anyone? Reply with quote

11:59 wrote:
http://www.classifiedpost.com/jscommunity.php?communitycode=EDU&lcid=HK.EN&jobpage=12

desire that their primary school-aged kids have private Latin lessons, of all things. Now, perhaps someone could enlighten me, why on Earth would � or could � any boy aged 7 anywhere in the world require a Latin tutor, let alone a kid of this age in Hong Kong? This is just another example of parents pushing their offspring to breaking point with useless and pointless knowledge for the sake of it, to 'get ahead', to give their kid 'a head start' (read, 'to deny them any childhood').

To paraphrase Cat Stevens, when and where do the children play?


I can only speculate - perhaps learning Latin at that early age helps them learning Chinese?

Erare humanum est.....
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Serious_Fun



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 4:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smoog wrote:
Maybe his parents have invented a Time Machine and are planning to go to Ancient Greece for Easter.


perhaps...although Latin will not be ideal for time-travel to ancient Greece! Cool

Is there a current trend in educational philosophy that suggests that English language learning is enhanced by learning Latin first? (I did not read the article cited)
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Joan



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How much or how little homework primary school children do, bears no relation to how well they perform at university. So let them have a childhood!!! (I researched this when there was a debate at my sons' primary school: some parents, mainly the Polish ones for some reason, wanted their kids to have homework. The anti-homework faction won)

I'm all for teaching Latin, but not for 7 year olds. I started it at age 12, and it has been a wonderful help to me in understanding new, technical words, and in understanding grammar. Also, the ancient Roman civilisation is really interesting. Oh yes, another advantage - after Latin grammar, German seemed easy.
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Steppenwolf



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 2:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Latin anyone? Reply with quote

[quote="abusalam4"]
11:59 wrote:
http://www.classifiedpost.com/jscommunity.php?communitycode=EDU&lcid=HK.EN&jobpage=12
them any childhood').

Erare humanum est.....


Tu erras!
Corrected: Errare humanum est!

But apart from your comments (and others) I would take the job since Latin tuition no doubt pays better than English lessons!
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Kaloi



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 5:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Obviously its a whack holdover from the British schoolboy tradition.

Twisted Evil In any event, they are pushovers for not having enforced Greek.


Perferare educatus linguam Latinam est!
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