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bearcanada

Joined: 04 Sep 2005 Posts: 312 Location: Calgary, Canada
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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 3:30 am Post subject: Foreigners to Face Employment Restrictions in Guangdong |
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From the China Daily; Nov. 29
Foreigners to Face Employment Restrictions in Guangdong
Xinhua: South China's Guangdong Province is drafting a regulation to restrict the employment of foreigners and to ban them from certain jobs.
Under the proposed regulation, the provincial labor and social security department will divide jobs into three categories -- "encouraged", "restricted" and "forbidden" -- to be published annually, said a spokesman with the bureau.
For jobs in the "encouraged" category, the prospect foreign employees will be issued permits. Employers will be charged fees for hiring foreigners for "restricted" positions.
The employment of foreigners without permits will be illegal, said the spokesman, without indicating specific jobs in the three categories.
Foreign students and foreigners without residence permits are ineligible to work without government approval, and they risk fines of up to 1,000 yuan (about 130 U.S. dollars) for working illegally.
This act was intended to cut crime among the growing number of foreigners illegally residing and working in Guangdong, said Yan Xiangrong, a deputy of the province's people's congress.
An estimated 10,000 foreigners are living in Guangdong, many of them financially insecure and involved in crime, such as drug trafficking, fraud and theft.
In the first half of this year, 102 foreigners were arrested on criminal charges, more than triple the number of the same period last year.
The local public security department plans to set up a data base at the end of this year, recording information of foreigners' visas, residence status, travel and departure and entrance registrations. |
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lostinasia
Joined: 11 Apr 2007 Posts: 466
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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 5:08 am Post subject: |
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What's more interesting is that China Daily is just posting this now?! I believe this story is about 6 weeks old. |
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Brian Caulfield
Joined: 14 Sep 2004 Posts: 1247 Location: China
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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 5:21 am Post subject: |
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Does China have entertainment visa's like in South Korea , for the Russian dancing ladies at KTV's? |
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Shan-Shan

Joined: 28 Aug 2003 Posts: 1074 Location: electric pastures
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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 8:08 am Post subject: |
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Xinhua yesterday ran a similar story, one more pertinent for some in the ESL industry:
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...in addition to the "Z" visa which is required to work in areas of culture and education, the central government from next year will be introducing the "W" visa for those who wish to be employed as teachers but who lack any teaching credentials, experience or neural powers beyond eating, drinking and, if given the opportunity, procreating. Sources in the government claim that a growing number of FTs (foreign teachers) are displaying a lack of pedagogical knowledge in the classroom, and tend to only jump up and down, "freak out" when approached to quickly and, on some unfortunate occasions, defecate under desks. Students taught by these FTs have complained about not being able to learn anything; some have also begun to exhibit symptoms of xenophobia above nationally acceptable levels.
The new "W" visa will be available for schools in absolute dire need of a foreign face as well as zoos on the verge of shutting down due to the sudden death of a main animal attraction.
Foreigners wishing to apply need only tick a box (any box) on the application form. Ten boxes will be provided to reduce the need for applicants to reapply due to incorrectly submitted forms.
-Xinhua News
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therock

Joined: 31 Jul 2005 Posts: 1266 Location: China
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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 8:31 am Post subject: |
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Brian Caulfield wrote: |
Does China have entertainment visa's like in South Korea , for the Russian dancing ladies at KTV's? |
South Korea has an entertainer visa for the Russian dancers. While China has an entertainer visa for FT's. |
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bearcanada

Joined: 04 Sep 2005 Posts: 312 Location: Calgary, Canada
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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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Shan-Shan, that was really funny. Thank you.
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englishgibson
Joined: 09 Mar 2005 Posts: 4345
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 3:01 am Post subject: |
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W visa
when it comes, i wonder if there'll be any differences in between salaries of the experts on Z and the salaries of "foreign faces dancing" on W visa
interesting developments in guangdong, but nothing surprising really for this country....first, all kinda foreign workers are welcomed to "perform" to those about 90% of chinese students in schools that have no interest in english, and then they decide to be more selective...this is just like the chinese developers that build their projects (shaky fundamentals that they sometimes return to "later", walls or plumbin' that crack often, leaky roofs etc)
peace to all kinds of talented planners in this lovely country of 5000 years of history
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cheers and beers to employers that really have a clue (or qualification)  |
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SocratesSon2
Joined: 19 Nov 2007 Posts: 134
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 3:17 am Post subject: |
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I think that must be you joking, I do not believe there will be anything like a W visa or anything of the sort. You made that up as just to make a joke right? |
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ispeakgoodenglish
Joined: 07 May 2007 Posts: 177 Location: Guangzhou, North of the Zhujiang
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 4:29 am Post subject: |
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Shanshan, great sense of humour  |
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englishgibson
Joined: 09 Mar 2005 Posts: 4345
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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 8:04 am Post subject: |
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well, after all that laugh that've had here, what do we really get serious about on these forums? corn flakes..chips..the chinese female or gay threads or what
in my humble opinion, employment restrictions, the need of a recommandation letter on the end of one's contract rather than the previous release letter regulation, farce schools/center etc are the topics to discuss
laws, rules, regulations often go unfollowed in china, however when local officials begin cleaning up this country from the sometimes drunk lao wai experts one day for real, we won't have as much sense of humor on, will we?
cheers and beers to our lovely existance on the forums as well as in china  |
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bdawg

Joined: 25 Feb 2004 Posts: 526 Location: Nanjing
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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 12:13 pm Post subject: |
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the need of a recommandation letter on the end of one's contract rather than the previous release letter regulation |
I find the problem with instituting such regulations such as these lies with verification of said requirements. I have no doubt in my mind that the government agencies issuing visas and residency permits will demand these documents (and others) and enforce it. Problems is that they most likely will not bother to follow up any such documents to confirm their legitimacy. This just opens the door for schools to provide potential FT's with standard faked documents, rather like the hundreds of fake degrees used to satisfy degree requirements. The result is just another wasteful bureaucratic dance we'll all have to get through. |
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englishgibson
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Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 3:15 am Post subject: |
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a fake recommandation letter is not as easy as a fake degree...there're phones around and nobody needs to dial a country's code really..then, they speak the same language in china (or at least i thought so before i came)
the problem is that an employer will have more powers over the foreign employee..some of those "powers" may include intimidations, exploitations, unfair judgements etc
peace to our points of views
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cheers and beers to all of us that are irreplacable with employers shakin' we'd leave  |
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