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Hiawatha



Joined: 09 Jun 2007
Posts: 62
Location: Oman

PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 10:32 am    Post subject: Common Sense? Reply with quote

Students are completely in charge of this college, which is unfortunate, because they are not qualified to do so. As a result the good instructors are leaving.

The policy (or no policy) here is to reprimand instructors at the whims of the students.

It is not the students who are responsible for this, but administration. A Common sense approach to management, for the betterment of Higher Education is needed.
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denise



Joined: 23 Apr 2003
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Location: finally home-ish

PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 12:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Common Sense? Reply with quote

Hiawatha wrote:
Common sense


Does that exist here? Laughing

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veiledsentiments



Joined: 20 Feb 2003
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Location: USA

PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A continual problem in the Gulf with the students going to the top to complain about usually trivial things. That is cultural, but the problem comes when the administration doesn't provide the reality check. This is much less a problem in Muscat area universities/colleges where management is stronger. I suspect it will take a few more years before this starts to get under control in the hinterlands.

I think that it also a reflection of the agency hiring system. When the employer hires direct, they seem to do a better job of getting experienced teachers and managers. There is an HR department that has a vested interest in hiring competent people. Now when they have problems with the people hired, the Ministry just blames the agents and then gives them a new contract to keep it up.

VS
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Duffy



Joined: 29 Oct 2005
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Location: Oman

PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hiawatha,

Where are you????

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Students are completely in charge of this college, which is unfortunate, because they are not qualified to do so. As a result the good instructors are leaving.


You have never identified your establishment. How can anybody reply to such "anonymous" statements.

tell us were you are and we may be able to help. Remain "Hiawatha" and there will be no assistance.

Duffy
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eha



Joined: 26 May 2005
Posts: 355
Location: ME

PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What assistance? There's nothing anyone can do in these situations, EXCEPT WORDS OF SUPPORT. And you don't need to know the identity of a person for that. You either say that it's the same in your establishment and we just have to grit our teeth and put up with it, while supporting each other sounding off on forums like this, or to a few (a VERY few) trusted colleagues in our own establishments. Or else you say that, no, it's not like that where you are; aren't we lucky; it must be horrible not to be able to trust students or colleagues.....etc. Why do you need to know the person's identity (if you know the establishment, it's all too easy, in the incestuous environment of Gulf Tefldom, to get the skinny on the staff) . Anonymity is crucial on these boards; apparently there have been cases!

The first move towards change is to TALK ABOUT IT --- supportively, of course.
Incidentally, I suspect Hiaw isn't in Oman at all. Wasn't he in New England somewhere?
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Duffy



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

eha,

Thats a load of KAK!!!

If you are in an accident what do you do?? Either call the emergency services with all the details of where you are etc. OR you shout into the howling gale or freezing snow - or whatever and never get a reply!!

In my book I cannot help a person unless I know at the very least, where they are.

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Why do you need to know the person's identity


I did not ask for Hiawatha's identity, just some more information that might help us to help him/her - how do you know "HE" is in the USA?? Do you really believe the locations as posted in a forum member's profile??

Silly you Laughing Laughing
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temujinsky



Joined: 07 Aug 2006
Posts: 35
Location: Where I am

PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 6:31 pm    Post subject: Kak betrays origins, meneer Reply with quote

Meneer, in other parts of the globe excrement is called by many names but in South Africa and in parts of Zimbabwe kak represents all that is worthy of the handle marked flush.
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Hiawatha



Joined: 09 Jun 2007
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Location: Oman

PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 7:20 am    Post subject: Common Sense? Reply with quote

I agree that our anonymity needs to be valued and protected here. (One's place of employment is an essential part of it.) I for one in fact get much from encouraging other expats in similar situations, both on and off this board.
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eha



Joined: 26 May 2005
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All right, all right, Duffy; I'd say Hiawatha has probably given up on getting words of support anyway, judging by the way the thread is going--- not unusual, unfortunately. If you personally need to know someone's ID before helping him/her, then I hope you aren't the first person to come along to that hypothetical accident you were talking about.

temuj: do you mean 'flush' in the cloacal or in the financial sense?
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