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Which countries have the best housing on a ESL wage?
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Blingcosa



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 4:45 am    Post subject: Which countries have the best housing on a ESL wage? Reply with quote

There are a few more things to consider in choosing a country to teach. What kind of housing can I expect in different countries on an English teacher's teacher's salary? I would expect to pay about 30-40% of my paycheck on rent. Ideally I would perfer a single apartment, but I would consider sharing if necessary.
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 5:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends where you go, in Asia, some places will get you your own housing. Other than that, then yes, about 30 percent should go towards housing.

In Peru, it would get you a smallish room.
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In most of Europe that percentage of an English teacher's wage would get you a bedroom in a shared flat.
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the Middle East, your housing is generally free. But you need to have a Masters and experience in order to qualify for a decent job there.
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sheikh radlinrol



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 2:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Which countries have the best housing on a ESL wage? Reply with quote

Blingcosa wrote:
There are a few more things to consider in choosing a country to teach. What kind of housing can I expect in different countries on an English teacher's teacher's salary? I would expect to pay about 30-40% of my paycheck on rent. Ideally I would perfer a single apartment, but I would consider sharing if necessary.

If you come to Spain and wish to live alone, you'll have to spend half your ''salary'' on accommodation. If you're young and happy to share with one or two others then you might spend only 20% of your earnings.
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 11:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apartments are small in Japan, and the ceilings and doorways are low. Most conversation schools provide them furnished with secondhand goods. What you pay depends entirely on location, from 30,000 yen/month to 100,000. Figure the average is about 70,000. Utilities will run 10,000-20,000 yen/month depending on location, season, and lifestyle.

Entry level salaries are roughly 250,000 yen/month.
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Nabby Adams



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 4:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In Thailand if you are prepared to live outside Bangkok then you'd get a pretty nice house to yourself by spending a third of your salary.

In the capital that would be a decent apartment near the skytrain.
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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In Mexico, 30-40 percent of a paycheck could get you anything from a furnished room or homestay up to a furnished apartment. Depends greatly on where in Mexico as the beach is pricey/low wages, large cities are moderate on prices/high wages, and small inland cities are cheap/low wages.

Some schools will pay for housing, though only the top international schools.
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Gusss



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

naturegirl321 wrote:
Depends where you go, in Asia, some places will get you your own housing. Other than that, then yes, about 30 percent should go towards housing.

In Peru, it would get you a smallish room.



In Peru I had my own really nice tropical house on a teachers wage. I was earning twelve soles an hour and the house was 100 soles per month. This is in Pucallpa three years ago.
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gusss wrote:
naturegirl321 wrote:
Depends where you go, in Asia, some places will get you your own housing. Other than that, then yes, about 30 percent should go towards housing.

In Peru, it would get you a smallish room.



In Peru I had my own really nice tropical house on a teachers wage. I was earning twelve soles an hour and the house was 100 soles per month. This is in Pucallpa three years ago.


That's the key, get out of Lima
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Mike_2007



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 2:44 pm    Post subject: In Bucharest, Romania Reply with quote

Working at an international high school, maybe at the BC or doing in-company freelance work, a third of your salary would probably get you a one-bedroomed flat, semi-central, in a Commie block. Something nicer either in a smaller block or a more central location will probably require two thirds.

Working for a language school, a third of your salary will get you a studio flat in the worst part of town...at best.
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BOBBYSUE



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 1:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In Brunei we all get 3-4 bedroom houses, even those of us who are single....and it's free. Some of us even opt for smaller houses and are allowed to keep the difference on our housing allowances. The only drag is that you need to be a state qualified teacher with ESL skills rather than a teacher with just ESL quals...and the Ministry won't accept Americans (Canadians are OK.) It's a shame as CfBT would be happy to recruit talented people from the US.
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 3:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I-ve heard good things about CfBT, I don-t qualified as I-m only an eligible teacher, not a licensed one, still haven-t taught int he US in order to get a license
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Tom Le Seelleur



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 5:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the UAE housing is provided and you do not need an MA to get a decent contract (most universities prefer it)

In Libya housing is free but basic

In KSA housing generally on compounds and excellent mostly

In Spain one third if you want to live in the city - live out and it is cheaper

In Lebanon it can be expensive or the school might provide shared accommodation

Brunei is provided or subsidized and is generally good

If you want more salary and spend less % on accommodation get part time/private work
Tom
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Brooks



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 4:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

in Korea you can get a free apartment.
Whether it is good or not depends on the employer.
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