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jonathanj



Joined: 09 Mar 2005
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 10:00 am    Post subject: Hired, but not showing up? Reply with quote

Let's say I was hired for a position, got the work VISA, got my wife a Dependant VISA, but didn't show up to the job, and got a better job in a different city. What could happen to my VISA? Can the first company revoke it? Not saying I'm doing this, just curious.
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Glenski



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN

PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Been asked a thousand times.

Nothing will probably happen to your visa. At least have the courtesy to notify the employer and apologize, though. Leaving them in the lurch is one thing; not even showing up when they might send someone to the airport, get an apartment ready, and have a schedule of classes laid out with students signed up is another.
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Apsara



Joined: 20 Sep 2005
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Location: Tokyo, Japan

PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 11:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's interesting how advertising affects us subtly, isn't it. VISA all in capitals is the logo of the credit card. There's no reason to write the kind of visa you get in your passport all in capitals, but so many people do.
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jonathanj



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TOO MUCH TV MAKE BRAIN HURT!
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jonathanj



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glenski wrote:
Been asked a thousand times.

Nothing will probably happen to your visa. At least have the courtesy to notify the employer and apologize, though. Leaving them in the lurch is one thing; not even showing up when they might send someone to the airport, get an apartment ready, and have a schedule of classes laid out with students signed up is another.


And yes, I agree. Like I said, wasn't planning on doing it, just curious as my wife asked me about it the other day. Thanks
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Quibby84



Joined: 10 Aug 2006
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Location: Japan

PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But how would you get your visa without ever going to the job? Doesnt your job have to take you to the immigration office to get the stamp in your passport?
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GambateBingBangBOOM



Joined: 04 Nov 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 12:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, you should be getting the visa before you arrive in country from the consulate or embassy (actually I think the consulates take your passport and send it to the embassy), otherwise you are in Japan on a tourist visa, working illegally, and scrambling to get the proper visa.
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Apsara



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 1:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you get your job after arriving in Japan, Quibby? If you have a job lined up you actually have the visa already in your passport when you arrive in Japan.
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Quibby84



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 1:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nooo..I got a screwy job remember? I guess you live and you learn and you get a new job when that contract is over...
OOHHH..I see, you can get the stamp from your local consulate...wow...the things that are hidden from you when you dont get a truthful company...
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southofreality



Joined: 12 Feb 2007
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Location: Tokyo

PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 2:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For visa-related issues, the company you work for, or want to work for, is not who you should trust, ultimately; It's the government of the country you are living in (or are about to live in). There's information everywhere. An interesting invention (possibly invented by Al Gore) is the internet. There's also an antiquated device called the telephone that still works wonders.

Honestly, Quibby, are you just pulling our chains with your posts sometimes?
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wabisabi365



Joined: 04 Feb 2007
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Location: japan

PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 3:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

>

Quibby might be confusing the visa with Alien Registration, but...

Quote:
Honestly, Quibby, are you just pulling our chains with your posts sometimes?

... I have wondered this exact thing myself. The naivete, at times, astounds to the degree that I sometimes think we're being had...

ws365
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Quibby84



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 5:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was completey naive when I got here...completely...we came in a dreamy blinded haze and we believed everything that was told to us...I think that I was used to trusting people, especially employeers (I have never had a bad one). I did research, but in the end I just believed what my company told me... We are seeing more and more everyday on how much we were screwed...and I think there are still things I dont know about..well as you can see from the previous post...
oh, I also tend to speak before I think...it has been a lifelong problem...BUT I dont tend to lie...just talk to much...sorry.

ok, didnt mean to hijack again...carry on...
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gaijin4life



Joined: 23 Sep 2006
Posts: 150
Location: Westside of the Eastside, Japan

PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
...I think that I was used to trusting people, especially employeers (I have never had a bad one). I did research, but in the end I just believed what my company told me... We are seeing more and more everyday on how much we were screwed...


Thats very true and I have heard this from many people regarding their teaching jobs, over here and in other countries !

I think its often the approach that many newbies who come to Japan take. But, if you trust people and have not had a bad experience with an employer - ie. a bad deal/contract etc, - why would you expect something different ?

Perhaps this is a naive approach, - or is it just being optomistic ?
People have good experiences; people get mistreated, thats the way it is unfortunately ... Confused

'Caveat emptor' - or really, 'teacher beware' ...
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The problem is, Quibby asked questions about a year in advance starting here
http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=42241&highlight=
and got tons of good advice there and on other posts. For example:
http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=42197&highlight=
http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=41666&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15
http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=43899&highlight=
http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=44199&highlight=
http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=44868&highlight=

What people do with the advice is up to them.
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Quibby84



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep..did the research...didnt listen...REALLY regret it....do not follow my example...
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