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When should I quit my job?

 
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ec



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 10:12 am    Post subject: When should I quit my job? Reply with quote

I've been offered a teaching position at a university in Beijing, and I'm due to start at the end of February. I've signed the two contracts, and the school is in the process of organising my invitation letter.

Anyway, in order to be able to leave the UK by that time, i will need to hand in my notice for my current job by the end of next week. I've read posts about people not being able to obtain the invitation letter due to the fact that they lacked two years of teaching experience. I have a degree, a basic TEFL certificate, and one year's experience tutoring children in the UK.

Basically, my concern is that I hand in my notice, and then the application screws up. At what stage will I be safe to quit my job, i.e., when can I be certain that the Beijing job won't fall through? Am I safe once I have the invitation letter to apply for the z-visa?


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malu



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A tough call. If your employer in China is an established university AND you are dealing with the university and not a recruiter I'd say it would be unlikely to fall through once the correct paperwork arrives for a Z-visa.

To be honest, there will be no shortage of university jobs in February so you wouldn't be left unemployed even if it all went belly-up.

Your experience and qualifications must be acceptable to the university for them to issue the paperwork - they wouldn't waste time and money doing so if they didn't consider you suitable. I suspect they are not exactly paying you a fortune and are grateful for the deal they've got.
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lostinasia



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It does not matter what the university think of the person's qualifications ... it only matters what the local police bureau and FEC issuer think.

Get your invitation letter and such first - but still risk that you won't receive a resident permit later because of the fact you lack the legal requirements for teaching there ...

It would be silly and irresponsible to come when you admit there might be issues and you lack the proper credentials .... willing to give up your job and income only to possibly then have nothing.

Get things in order before quitting or moving
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Shan-Shan



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It would be silly and irresponsible to come when you admit there might be issues and you lack the proper credentials ....


If the OP is able to spell "credentials" correctly, his/her credentials are satisfactory for China. When someone from Cameroon with a Cameroonian university degree is able to teach English in China, there's really no reason for the OP to fret.
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ec



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for the advice guys!

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lostinasia



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shan-Shan wrote:
If the OP is able to spell "credentials" correctly, his/her credentials are satisfactory for China. When someone from Cameroon with a Cameroonian university degree is able to teach English in China, there's really no reason for the OP to fret.


Then what is the point of Beijing changing the legal requirements of requiring 2 years teaching experience? And why is it, in some cases being enforced?
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Shan-Shan



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The point being that requirements add some credibility to the job, and, thankfully, discourage some who have absolutely no business teaching English anywhere.

As for enforcing the two years experience, there's just one question I have: how? There are likely more than a few FTs in China whose two years experience amount to nothing more than a few creative taps on a keyboard.
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ec



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

how does it work anyway? does the FEC just scan through the applicant's credentials and make their decision whether to issue the invitation or not based on that information?
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lostinasia



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shan-Shan wrote:
As for enforcing the two years experience, there's just one question I have: how? There are likely more than a few FTs in China whose two years experience amount to nothing more than a few creative taps on a keyboard.


It would not be difficult to require the ability to verify - just like other countries are starting to do ... otherwise you'll just have more frauds coming here to grab a job they can't elsewhere. Korea's verification process is becoming more complex everyday. So, the simple outright fraud and lies on a resume become more risky each year.
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