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Public holidays in China - are these usually paid?

 
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MollyP



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 12:50 am    Post subject: Public holidays in China - are these usually paid? Reply with quote

Hi Everyone,

I'm just negotiating a contract to teach in Hangzhou in China and the contract states that they don't pay me for public holidays. Is this usually how things are?

Any info would be great!

Thanks!
Emily
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eslstudies



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It depends who you're talking to. I've never seen a state school yet that doesn't pay these. Privates? Whatever they can pull, I guess.
Just make sure you are in agreement as to what "public holidays" you're talking about.

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Fresh from the official grapevine:

The new law, which goes into effect on Jan 1, 2008, will see the shortening of one of the golden weeks and the addition of three new traditional Chinese festivals (Tomb-Sweeping Day, Dragon-Boat Festival and Mid-Autumn Festival) to the list of official holidays. The implementation of the law will also see the number of official holidays increase from 10 to 11 every year.

The 11 days are split up in the following way:

New Years Day: Jan 1 (1 day)

Spring Festival (Chun Jie): Feb 6-8 (3 days) In the past the Spring Festival holidays started on the actual day of the Spring Festival (Chuyi) and ran through until the third day of the festival (Chusan). From next year, the holidays will begin on Spring Festival Eve (Chuxi) and run through until the second day of the festival.

Tomb-Sweeping Day (Qing Ming Jie): April 5 (1 day)

May Day: May 1 (1 day)

Dragon-Boat Festival (Duan Wu Jie): June 8 (1 day)

Mid-Autumn Festival (Zhongqiu Jie): September 14 (1 day)

National Holidays (Guoqing Jie): Oct 1-3 (3 day)

As with current practice, if any of these holidays happen to fall on the weekend, the holiday will be made up on the next working day.

The law also makes it official that women receive a half-day holiday on March 8�s International Women�s Day (Funu Jie), youth older than 14 get half a day off on May 4 on Youth Day (Qingnian Jie), the under 14s are spoiled with a full-day off on June 6 for Children�s Day (Ertong Jie), while members of the PLA get a half-day off on August 1. In addition, some of the national minorities are able to determine their own holidays in accordance with their own traditional festivals.

originally published in:
http://www.thebeijinger.com/blog/tbjblog/2007/12/17/p10574#more10574

more here:
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2007-12/08/content_7218128.htm


Thanks to Nolefan for this.
So I'd say a private language school would only pay you for the hours you actually teach. A public [or private] elementary, middle, or tertiary school should pay you for public holidays, but probably only for part of the school holidays.
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MGreen



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 1:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

eslstudies, What do you mean by 'only for part of the school holidays'? Are you talking about the summer holiday?

Where I teach, they pay for all of the university holidays including the summer regardless if sign another contract.
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jammish



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 2:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That sucks. I get 4 months holiday a year (plus the october and may) with a full 12 months' pay.

Look for a better deal.
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malu



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 3:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't believe they actually HAVE to pay public holidays in much the same way as they don't have to give you what you might consider a good salary. But if you accept a contract on those terms then that's what you're going to get.

My school - private high school - pays all public holidays that are on your list plus a few extra. Don't be bullied by any sort of argument that goes: "Well that's how we do it in China".
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eslstudies



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MGreen wrote:
eslstudies, What do you mean by 'only for part of the school holidays'? Are you talking about the summer holiday?

Where I teach, they pay for all of the university holidays including the summer regardless if sign another contract.


And so they should, but not all do, especially if you're moving on.
Just another trap for young players to watch out for.
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kev7161



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP, you need to negotiate for full monthly pay for every month of your contract, regardless of holidays. If you don't, then you'll get what you sign on for. If the school you are interested in tells you they won't pay you for holidays (or perhaps a percentage of your full pay), then you have to decide on whether or not you will take the job. To answer your question, it's up to you!
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