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markle
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AndyH
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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 11:43 pm Post subject: |
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Agree. i don't like Japanese whaling, just like I don't like the fact that Koreans and Chinese eat dogs. But, I have to recognize that part of it is my own cultural bias against the killing of certain animals, while condoning the killing/eating of others. |
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bonyE
Joined: 28 Jun 2007 Posts: 8 Location: Australia
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Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 11:51 am Post subject: |
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AndyH wrote: |
But, I have to recognize that part of it is my own cultural bias against the killing of certain animals, while condoning the killing/eating of others. |
I don't quite think that's the point against anti-whaling. The animals a lot of western countries farm to eat are killed quickly and humanely (generally). And yes, I use to live on a small cattle farm. All the cows were my pets, and my dinner. But the whales are being hunted for a delicacy (not a main staple diet), and are killed cruelly - agonising deaths that last 15-30 minutes or so. I also believe some species of whale are endangered. It's not just a cultural thing of what animal is 'right' to eat. |
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markle
Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Posts: 1316 Location: Out of Japan
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Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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See this is where think the whole anti-whaling campaign gets de-railed. Japan's whaling stance is essentially political (the government wants the votes). To use emotive, moral arguments is fruitless. It also looks hypocritical given that Western countries hunted whales to the brink of extinction, for what? Perfume and lamp oil. Now the Japanese can't hunt them to eat? Credibility problem there. Another case in point is the former Howard government, it spurned the Kyoto Protocols for blatantly political reasons then took the moral high road on whaling. The Rudd government's tack has been to approach it from a political angle, which gives the Japanese government an out without looking weak. I'll bet you pounds to pence that there were some deals done with regard to Bali also. |
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