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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 11:03 pm    Post subject: question about German universities in affordable cities Reply with quote

Hello,

I would like to ask for advice. Which good German universities are located in comparatively cheap cities?

I mean "cheap" as for the cost of buying real estate. My good friends are thinking in a few years to send a child to study to Germany and they are thinking to buy some inexpensive property there.

They think that they can buy some apartment (studio or 1-bedroom) and lease it until their child goes there and then the child will live in that apartment.

Now they can afford this, who knows what will be in a few years?

They thought about Karlsruhe but it is too expensive. They do not want to rent. They want to invest and at the same time avoid spending on rent in the future.

In the USA, very good universities are often located in affordable towns. I would be able to advise them about the USA but I have no idea about Germany.

They are also thinking about Austria.

Please, share your ideas.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 11:58 pm    Post subject: Re: question about German universities in affordable cities Reply with quote

advice wrote:
Hello,

I would like to ask for advice. Which good German universities are located in comparatively cheap cities?

I mean "cheap" as for the cost of buying real estate. My good friends are thinking in a few years to send a child to study to Germany and they are thinking to buy some inexpensive property there.

They think that they can buy some apartment (studio or 1-bedroom) and lease it until their child goes there and then the child will live in that apartment.

Now they can afford this, who knows what will be in a few years?

They thought about Karlsruhe but it is too expensive. They do not want to rent. They want to invest and at the same time avoid spending on rent in the future.

In the USA, very good universities are often located in affordable towns. I would be able to advise them about the USA but I have no idea about Germany.

They are also thinking about Austria.

Please, share your ideas.


Believe it or not Berlin; flats are very cheap!
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 7:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Leipzig, Dresden, Rostock.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I�d second Berlin. It�s unbelievably cheap and attracts all the arty sorts with no money. The unemployment in Berlin and around is horrendous. We�re talking 25%, but if you�ve got a job or are studying there it�s great.

Unless someone is planning to stay anywhere in Germany long term, i.e. over ten years, buying property would be a big mistake. Decent Berlin apartments, for example, start from as low as 50000 Euro, but there�s a reason for this. Apart from the economic problems, there are huge taxes to pay when you buy or sell property. It�s also not in the German culture to buy property, and only about 30 to 40% of Germans ever do so. That 50000 Euro place would still be worth the same or less in a decade, and unless something major happens, it would be nigh on impossible to sell it anyway. Not to mention all the maintenance costs. Do as the Germans do and rent.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about Halle/Saale or anywhere in Sachsen Anhalt? I'd reckon real estate is cheap there and there are a few uni's around.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

misterkodak wrote:
How about Halle/Saale or anywhere in Sachsen Anhalt? I'd reckon real estate is cheap there and there are a few uni's around.


How about just don't study in Germany; sure it's cheap but that's all it is; you can get a much better education in Canada, America or the UK...
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

better education in the uk

us

canada

that's borderline hilarious

kudos to you sir kudos to you

i do love an unanticipated guffaw
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nabakow30 wrote:
better education in the uk

us

canada

that's borderline hilarious

kudos to you sir kudos to you

i do love an unanticipated guffaw


At university level that is true. You get what you pay for. I have studied in both systems and I am telling you that is the truth.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 11:29 am    Post subject: thank you Reply with quote

Thank you for everybody. As for the quality of education... Well, I have a very prestigeous education from the university in the USA but I am not elligible to stay in America. In my country this education means nothing.

I have Ph.D. from my home country and my salary there is $200 per month:))) In the real life all that "quality of education" does not matter even though we, teachers, would like something else.

To go to study tp Germany means an opportunity to stay there. I cannot afford four-year tuition and living expenses in the USA for my child. I can immigrate to Canada, but it does not make sense to have all those hardships for at least 10 years only to give my child an opportunity to study there.

Thank you for everybody for advice. Just keep in mind that this is a question from a person without any Western citizenship we have different opportunities and different approaches. Besides, our people buy property in Germany. What are people supposed to do when they have a pile of money in their hands after having sold apartments in their home country? They buy apartments in the new country:)))

Earning $200 per month we often live in the apartments which can be sold for $100,000 or 200,000.

We often have wealthy parents who send kids to become Au-pairs thinking that after a year she will find the way not to come back. In my country the real estate which was $2,500 only 5 years ago is now $30,000.

Everything changes in life, nothing stays in the same place. And this is in the country where people do not want to live:))) American $ falls down in terms of buying real estate around the world.

Germany consists not only of Germans:))) Plenty of people come there and they bring money, so in the case of increasing of the EU the prices may change.
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