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Tara2117



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 8:11 am    Post subject: Heavy Metal ESL Class... Reply with quote

Hi all,

I have an 18-year old private student who is interested in the same music I am. (Namely, hard rock and metal.) I was thinking about trying to do a lesson involving song lyrics. Most of the stuff I like has pretty high-level lyrics... can anyone think of some rock songs with lyrics simple enough to build a lesson around? Or at least to do a short, fun activity around?

(Note... I know I should post this on the teacher forum, but I'm still waiting for the magic seal of approval from the mods before I have posting access there...)

Thanks!
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alexrocks



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Rock and roll all night" by KISS
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David W



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm guessing "Lick My Love Pump" by Spinal Tap is out of the question?
I might start by finding out his favourite songs, cutting them into bite size pieces and going from there.
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used to be excited about using song lyrics. Then I came to the realization that lyrics are terribly ungrammatical, and that even with English songs, I had a hard time picking out the words, so why should my students have to?

Sorry, but I really don't see the point other than sharing the music itself. Get some history of the song or artist and use that to build vocabulary.
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Insubordination



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, it ain't heavy but I always think that 'Every Breath You Take' by The Police has fairly easy lyrics (well, except for every claim you stake) as do some of the slower RHCPeppers' songs (My Friends, Under the Bridge'. Elton John also has some easy ones like 'Daniel' and some simple Beatles' songs are easy to teach too. You'll just have to look through your ipod and you'll find a suitable one. I'm sure there are some online lessons along these lines too.

It's a great way to engage students. Many are ungrammatical but that's the way it is.
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AndyH



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used to teach using song lyrics, as a supplemental activity to text work, to my advanced adult students. The trick is to find songs with words that are fairly easy to distinguish. I don't think I ever used a metal/hard rock song, even though some of my students liked that type of music. Some songs I used were Hey Jude, You've Got To Hide Your Love Away, Beth, You're So Vain, Suspicious Minds, and Bridge Over Troubled Water. I would normally white out about ten or twelve words in the song, have the students listen to the song a couple of times and try to fill in the missing words, then after they know what the words are, listen to the song again. Finally, we'd discuss the meaning of the lyrics. Of course, this type of activity is not for beginners.
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Tara2117



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 2:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glenski wrote:

Sorry, but I really don't see the point other than sharing the music itself.


The point is to reward a kid who studies harder than any of my other kids with a fun diversion. To break up the monotony of just using the text. I don't expect him to come away with a newfound fluency or anything. I just thought he'd enjoy it. Especially since my school wants us to do fun stuff with the students this week for Christmas.
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Tara2117



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 2:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Under the Bridge and You've Got to Hide Your Love Away actually sound pretty good...
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AndyH



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 2:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Students, and especially kids, should have fun activities in class, to break up the monotony of text work and give them something to look forward to when going to the eikaiwa. Even if the listening excercise isn't a complete success, it doesn't hurt to try.
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Hawaiibadboy



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 2:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tara2117 wrote:
Glenski wrote:

Sorry, but I really don't see the point other than sharing the music itself.


The point is to reward a kid who studies harder than any of my other kids with a fun diversion. To break up the monotony of just using the text. I don't expect him to come away with a newfound fluency or anything. I just thought he'd enjoy it. Especially since my school wants us to do fun stuff with the students this week for Christmas.


I have a couple pics in my blog July maybe? where I taught them a current "high rotation" song off MTV's TRL list and we did a bio, with a songs lyrics and the song on a cd-rw. It worked great and they enjoyed it. I will return to it next spring.
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alexrocks



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 3:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about "Party Hard" by Andrew WK? Those lyrics are pretty straightforward.
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Khyron



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 6:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Wreck Of The Edmund Fitzgerald is quite heavy. Literally.
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AndyH



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

2LiveCrew should probably be avoided. Laughing
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markle



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 11:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AndyH wrote:
2LiveCrew should probably be avoided. Laughing
Maybe but at least you can understand the lyrics
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AndyH



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 2:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

True, but have fun EXPLAINING them! Very Happy
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