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glimmer
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 Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 5:07 am Post subject: Adult education in Japan |
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| I'm a recent graduate looking to teach adult/university level students in Japan. (Jet Program and the Eikaiwas are not an option.) Are there any other institutions or agencies I could approach? |
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markle
Joined: 17 Jan 2003
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Location: Out of Japan
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| Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 7:00 am Post subject: Re: Adult education in Japan |
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| glimmer wrote: |
| Eikaiwas are not an option |
Why not? eikawa do adults and uni-level students, you might have to work part time though.
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| Are there any other institutions or agencies I could approach? |
There are some agencies that specialize in business English. other than that you are left with Universities - so hopefully you are a recent graduate of MATESOL |
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glimmer
Joined: 27 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 7:43 am Post subject: Re: Adult education in Japan |
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| markle wrote: |
Why not? eikawa do adults and uni-level students, you might have to work part time though. |
Oh, I was under the impression that all the Eikaiwa (GEOS, AEON, ECC, Berlitz) require you to teach at least some children's lessons. And I am looking for a full-time position rather than part-time.
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| There are some agencies that specialize in business English. other than that you are left with Universities - so hopefully you are a recent graduate of MATESOL |
Alas, Bachelor's degree with TESOL certification, and no background in Business English. Maybe I'll go to China or Taiwan instead.  |
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Glenski
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Some eikaiwas have lessons for kids and for adults. Some cater to only one of these groups. Mine didn't have any kids. The average age was 50-55, and the oldest was almost 90.
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| I was under the impression that all the Eikaiwa (GEOS, AEON, ECC, Berlitz) require you to teach at least some children's lessons |
I hope you realize that you have named only 4 out of the thousands of eikaiwas here. That hardly represents "all the Eikaiwa". Looks to me like you are looking to snag a work visa before you come here. That will severely limit you to eikaiwas (about 10) and JET. Come here capable of supporting yourself for 3 months will open more opportunities, especially if you're in the right place at the right time. Peak hiring season is usually around March for newbies.
You have to look at things from a realistic standpoint. You're a recent graduate. No teaching experience. That usually means ALT for JET or dispatch agencies, or instructor for eikaiwa. Anything else is a rare exception, and you usually have to be in the right place at the right time with the right connections. You can go up from these types of work, but you are going to have to start at the bottom rung, despite your specific major, IMO. |
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glimmer
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Just to clarify, I'm in my thirties and do have some teaching experience, albeit mostly as an unpaid volunteer. I'm hoping to go to Japan, China, or Taiwan in April this year. Yes, I do want to have a job lined up in advance before I go. No, I wasn't aware that some of the smaller eikaiwa teach "adults only" - thanks for the tip. (Jet Program is not an option, not least of all because of the schedule and long application process!) And yes, I'm aware my prospects in Japan are probably limited because I only want to teach mature learners.  |
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Glenski
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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| glimmer wrote: |
| Just to clarify, I'm in my thirties and do have some teaching experience, albeit mostly as an unpaid volunteer. |
Not to sound harsh, but that won't count as teaching experience to most employers here, IMO. You're going to have to settle for someone who recruits from abroad or come here, support yourself for 3 months, and look for something locally.
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| I'm hoping to go to Japan, China, or Taiwan in April this year. Yes, I do want to have a job lined up in advance before I go. |
Peak hiring season here is March, because most jobs start in April. If you come in April, you will be almost too late, IMO. |
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Gypsy Rose Kim
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Does peak hiring season really matter to anyone other than ALTs and university folks? I'm not being cheeky, but I really don't think it does. Although you'll have to watch out for holidays and stuff where hiring staff might have other things on their minds, I think eikaiwa applications are good to go all year.
One drawback I can think of to starting in April, though. Most places are probably gonna pay pro rata your first month (assuming it'll be a partial month). If you started in a month where there were holidays (in April, think Golden Week), you might be hurting financially. |
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ripslyme
Joined: 29 Jan 2005
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| Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Gypsy Rose Kim wrote: |
Does peak hiring season really matter to anyone other than ALTs and university folks? I'm not being cheeky, but I really don't think it does. Although you'll have to watch out for holidays and stuff where hiring staff might have other things on their minds, I think eikaiwa applications are good to go all year.
One drawback I can think of to starting in April, though. Most places are probably gonna pay pro rata your first month (assuming it'll be a partial month). If you started in a month where there were holidays (in April, think Golden Week), you might be hurting financially. |
Yes, it is the peak hiring season because that's when all the grads emerge from Japanese universities. It's pretty standard for every industry throughout Japan, except eikaiwa.
A reputable employer will give you those holidays as paid (yes, even all of Golden Week). |
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southofreality
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Location: Tokyo
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| Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 11:17 pm Post subject: |
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| ripslyme wrote: |
Yes, it is the peak hiring season because that's when all the grads emerge from Japanese universities. It's pretty standard for every industry throughout Japan, except eikaiwa.
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Even the big Eikaiwa companies have their peak hiring season in April (actually hired earlier for an April start). It's hard to break with tradition. Personally, when having worked for a big eikaiwa school, I always started during the 'off-peak' hiring season. |
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Kilgore Trout
Joined: 18 Jul 2007
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Location: Japan
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| Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 1:52 am Post subject: |
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| Just to clarify, I'm in my thirties and do have some teaching experience, albeit mostly as an unpaid volunteer. I'm hoping to go to Japan, China, or Taiwan in April this year. Yes, I do want to have a job lined up in advance before I go. No, I wasn't aware that some of the smaller eikaiwa teach "adults only" - thanks for the tip. (Jet Program is not an option, not least of all because of the schedule and long application process!) And yes, I'm aware my prospects in Japan are probably limited because I only want to teach mature learners. |
Go to China, Korea or Taiwan and get a university job if you have a BA or BS. They are in need, and the living conditions are mostly tolerable.
It is very expensive to live here, and most of these companies have sketchy reputations. I personally refuse to work for any of them. However, you may find a position with Interac in Komagane, Nagano prefecture teaching adults for JICA (like Job Corps), but it is far off the beaten track. |
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