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Angelfish
Joined: 18 Jan 2006 Posts: 131
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 7:35 pm Post subject: A convoluted visa question. |
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I currently have to work in Japan which expires May 2010 and still have my ARC but am now living back in the UK. I left Japan October 2007 and didn't hand in my ARC. I plan to return to Japan (hopefully) with the JET programme in August 2009. The visa is in my old passport which expired February 2008. I now have a new passport.
My question: Should I...?
A) Go to the Japanese Embassy and hand in my old ARC and have my old visa voided before applying for JET this October.
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B) Not worry about it because it's in my old passport and the two won't corollate anyway.
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G Cthulhu
Joined: 07 Feb 2003 Posts: 1373 Location: Way, way off course.
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Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 1:47 am Post subject: Re: A convoluted visa question. |
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*IMO*, always take the path of least resistence and easiest apology: new passport means new passport number so it shouldn't throw any spanners in the work unless someone goes to the trouble of running your old number to check for anything outstanding on it (& the chances of that are... slim IMO). So, ignore the whole situation and apply under the new number. If anything comes up at some point *then* apologise, say you didn't know you had to hand things back, blahblahblah, and you'll be golden.
Good luck with the JET appy. |
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 9:19 am Post subject: |
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I currently have to work in Japan which expires May 2010 |
I take it this typo means you "have a visa to work in Japan".
As much as Chthulhu is the expert here on JET, I'd say first of all wait until you actually hear from JET. Sounds like you haven't even gotten the word on being accepted or not. Give it another month or so. Heck, you could even be on the alternate list instead of the first round of hires. (Also, if you were in Japan for 3 years in the past 10, you would automatically be turned down, if I understand the JET regulations right.)
Then, if you get accepted, do what Chthulhu says... use your current passport and let JET help you apply for the new visa. You're not going to be able to use the old one by itself anyway.
One more question...
You said that you took home the alien registration card. Did you also get a reentry permit? If not, your current visa is immediately invalidated when you left Japan.
If all goes well, and you get hired, likely as not you will be placed in a different location than on your ARC. Just apply for a new one, instead of using the old one. |
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Angelfish
Joined: 18 Jan 2006 Posts: 131
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Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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Yep, that was a typo. Working 50+ hours a week is making my English worser.
I'm not applying for JET this time around, it won't be till August 2009. I do have the re-entry permit as well. |
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englishtutor1378
Joined: 18 May 2007 Posts: 44
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Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 2:22 pm Post subject: More about VISA'S |
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That is interesting. From the posts that I have read and from some of my house mates that have been here in Japan for over 10 years they say that it is a good idea not to tell JET that you have worked in Japan. One of my house mates in fact applied for JET back in 1997 he says back then since he had already been to Japan his application was automatically revoked. I guess because the point of the program is to seek and enhance internationalization in Japan and to promote mutual understanding between Japan and other nations. Back then, I guess if you have previously been to Japan in the past that will spoil the �understanding� part and that the individual who has been to Japan already somewhat understand this society and of course most of you all know it is different from every other country in this world. Now-a-days, I hear it is less then 3 years you are allowed to be in Japan and any more it is not accepted.
1) Hypothetically speaking, if Angelfish applies for JET is it better to say she has never worked in Japan before since she will be getting a new visa anyway or does it not matter?
2) Since Angelfish has experience already teaching in Japan isn't it a good idea to use her former company as a reference? Since I hear they require a few references.
About permanent residency. I hear that you have to be here for about 10 years to apply for this. My question to you guys are pertaining to Visa�s, as well.
3) For example, if I was to run-out my current visa after this year and got a new one in 2009 does the MOJ put into consideration after 10 years if I am interested in attaining permanent residency since I started here in 2006?
4) Does anybody have any info about what can possibly happen here in Japan if one was to get caught with an expired visa? Immediate deportation?
5) If one was planning to attain PR, is it a must to renew the same visa year after year? Or every 3 years if one gets lucky to get a 3 year visa.
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 11:06 pm Post subject: Re: More about VISA'S |
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Now-a-days, I hear it is less then 3 years you are allowed to be in Japan and any more it is not accepted. |
Yup, read the JET web site. It's right there. http://www.jetprogramme.org/e/aspiring/eligibility.html
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About permanent residency. I hear that you have to be here for about 10 years to apply for this. |
Essentially, yes, but that pertains to people who are not married to Japanese. In that situation, it could be half that long.
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My question to you guys are pertaining to Visa�s, as well.
3) For example, if I was to run-out my current visa after this year and got a new one in 2009 does the MOJ put into consideration after 10 years if I am interested in attaining permanent residency since I started here in 2006? |
Maybe. See link below but remember that in Japan it is all "case by case".
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4) Does anybody have any info about what can possibly happen here in Japan if one was to get caught with an expired visa? Immediate deportation? |
Case by case. If you turn yourself in, you can get off with only one year of being blacklisted. Otherwise, you risk 5 years. Deportation is just one option. There is also incarceration and fines. http://www.cas.go.jp/jp/seisaku/hourei/data/icrra.pdf
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5) If one was planning to attain PR, is it a must to renew the same visa year after year? Or every 3 years if one gets lucky to get a 3 year visa.
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You renew the visa when it expires. You change it if it suits your work circumstances. Read this for more info on guidelines for PR.
http://www.immi-moj.go.jp/english/tetuduki/zairyuu/guide_residence.html |
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