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		orly_porly
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2003 10:09 pm    Post subject: certification | 
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				I know that this is a subject often asked about, but I would like to know what is SECOND best certification to obtain.... considering CELTA is the most recognized.  I am planning on teaching in SEA (Malaysia/Vietnam) and $2300cnd is out of my budget for the CELTA course.  I don't want to take a useless weekend course, so I am looking for others that are as valuable as the CELTA.  
 
Any help would be appreciated. 
 
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		shmooj
 
  
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				 Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2003 12:26 am    Post subject:  | 
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		Wolf
 
  
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				 Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2003 5:13 am    Post subject:  | 
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				smooj, this is the newbie forum.  No biting.  Go flame me or something.  
 
 
PhDs might not always be practical, but second fiddle to a CELTA course . . . .  
 
 
Sorry not to be much help, but I can't say for certian.  There was a cert course I knew in Japan-but it's only recognized in that country.  Many educators in China (in the interior) are not aware such things exist.
 
 
Do be careful - there are tons of dodgy schools that offer these things.  If you just want the piece of paper so that you get get a job, that's an option.  But if you really want to learn how to teach, try to be picky. | 
			 
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		denise
 
  
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				 Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2003 7:59 am    Post subject: Re: certification | 
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				Look for one with 100+ hours of class time, including several hours of practice-teaching. I didn't do a CELTA (I got my TEFL cert. through ITC in Prague), and I don't think I'm any worse off for not having one.
 
 
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		shmooj
 
  
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				 Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2003 3:35 pm    Post subject:  | 
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	  smooj, this is the newbie forum.  No biting.  Go flame me or something.   | 
	 
 
 
 
... oh please please please lemmie have a little chew...
 
 
Well actually I was thinking that if an MA is the best qualification to have then a PhD might be second best...
 
 
...maybe not then.
 
 
CELTA? naaaahhh
 
 
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		Gordon
 
  
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				 Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2003 4:54 am    Post subject:  | 
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				| The Trinity is also well-known and recognized.  Don`t do the week or weekend deals.  You`d be better off making a certificate on your computer and save the $500 than take one of those.  Follow D`s advice on the minimum standards for a TEFL. | 
			 
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		shmooj
 
  
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				 Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2003 2:06 am    Post subject:  | 
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				I did Trinity and I would definitely recommend it as being good prep for TESOL. There are two qualifications too a Cert and a later Diploma so you can boost yourself up later on if you are so inclined. 
 
 
The only downside about the trinity for me is that I am doomed to carrying around an A3 size certificate with me for the rest of my life. Why A3 - and they spelt my name wrong on it!
 
 
The RSA certificate also has a good reputation though I'm not sure if you can get this outside the UK/Europe. Anyone know? | 
			 
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