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stoth1972
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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 8:48 pm Post subject: Department of Defense Schools |
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Anybody have any experience working with DoD schools? What are the packages like? |
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naturegirl321

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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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Are they anything like International Schools? |
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stoth1972
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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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No, unfortunately not, it would seem. DoD schools serve military families, I believe. I don't think they're open to anyone else, unlike many international schools, which open their doors to certain students. |
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naturegirl321

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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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Is there a website we could look at? Which country's DoD are you talking about? |
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stoth1972
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naturegirl321

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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 10:05 pm Post subject: |
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It's not working for me, maybe it's blocked in Peru. I would assume that it would be similar to International school benefits. |
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stoth1972
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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 11:24 pm Post subject: |
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Those are my thoughts, though since you'd be a federal employee, I would assume you have to pay taxes in the US (a drawback if people go overseas to save $$). Just wondering, aside from a pension and social security, what this offers above and beyond the avg. international school. |
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naturegirl321

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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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I'm sure that you would have to be a certified teacher with atleast two years. Why don't you simpoly apply and see what they offer? |
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stoth1972
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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 12:00 am Post subject: |
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It's actually not for me. A friend of mine has decided that this sounds like the best deal going for teaching abroad. I suspect that taxes and teaching American military brats likely degrades the value of the contract, but I was hoping that someone had first-hand, or even 2nd hand knowledge of what the packages looked like. They're not easy jobs to get, from what I've heard, and you can only apply to a region: after that, they decide where you go. Thanks for the input! |
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naturegirl321

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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 12:35 pm Post subject: |
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I still think that your friend shoudl apply and see what happens. Just because you apply doesn't mean that you'll get the job. |
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stoth1972
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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 3:30 pm Post subject: |
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My concern is that this is the only place she believes to be worth applying, and is therefore passing up job postings with excellent schools. I'm trying to find out as much as possible, so that she might open herself up to some other great jobs. Hence, coming on here looking for some details about DoD. |
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TravellingAround

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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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stoth1972 wrote: |
Those are my thoughts, though since you'd be a federal employee, I would assume you have to pay taxes in the US (a drawback if people go overseas to save $$). Just wondering, aside from a pension and social security, what this offers above and beyond the avg. international school. |
I think you have already mentioned what it would have over an International School. Your friend would be an employee of the forces and, therefore, still employed in the US while teaching abroad.
International schools often have the benefits of whatever country they are in. They can also pay more or offer different benefits. Alternatively some won't pay as well or offer such a good package.
I'd suggest you tell her to look around for back-up plans if nothing else. A good place to start for a US teacher is http://www.tieonline.com/default.cfm
PS - Is your friend an actual teacher in the US? These kind of jobs don't really come under "ESL" but are more like an American school away from home type of deal usually. |
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stoth1972
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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the input, travellingaround. She has ESL experience overseas, though she's a K-6 qualified Bilingual Language Arts teacher, also certified to teach K-12 PE, with two years of experience in the US in a border town w/ Mexico. |
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TravellingAround

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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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stoth1972 wrote: |
Thanks for the input, travellingaround. She has ESL experience overseas, though she's a K-6 qualified Bilingual Language Arts teacher, also certified to teach K-12 PE, with two years of experience in the US in a border town w/ Mexico. |
OK she has the qualification then but personally I don't see why she wouldn't also look at International Schools as many of them have a US curriculum too although not the British schools obviously. There are a lot of American schools are around the world and some of them pay very well.
She could also try TES jobs (more UK-based than TIE) - http://jobs.tes.co.uk/Jobs.aspx?regionId=4228 or http://www.joyjobs.com/ which has a list of schools around the world but I do warn you that you have to pay to join.
Certainly when I have seen jobs advertised for the Ministry of Defence (UK) about teaching to kids of army personnel abroad the contract has looked decent but I didn't really fancy it. There would be a huge amount of students coming and going I'd expect. International Schools would probably offer far better stability and less chance of upheaval in student numbers.
I don't know for certain though so hopefully someone who has worked in such a scheme can enlighten you better than I have. |
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stoth1972
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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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Those are all my thoughts. We both taught in Cairo at one point, and the best gig in town for a qualified American teacher, Cairo American College, had fantastic packages, and no tax! I've steered her in the general direction of the TES, also. I can't imagine these DoD schools are paying too much more than the best American school internationally, but I can't say that definitely. Thanks for the links. |
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