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amudbc
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 Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 10:50 am Post subject: Is Chonqing an expensive city? |
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| I'm looking at a job there with Aston English Schools. The pay would probably be around 6200 rmb accomodation provided but could be as low as 5000 rmb. Im looking at living rather than saving though the former would be a bonus. |
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rogerwilco
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| Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 11:13 am Post subject: Re: Is Chonqing an expensive city? |
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| amudbc wrote: |
| I'm looking at a job there with Aston English Schools. The pay would probably be around 6200 rmb accomodation provided but could be as low as 5000 rmb. Im looking at living rather than saving though the former would be a bonus. |
A gambler would bet that your pay would probably be 5000.
The 6200 is probably just "bait and switch". |
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amudbc
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| Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 11:21 am Post subject: |
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6200 for 25 hours
5000 for 20 hours
Any info on prices in Chonqing |
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rogerwilco
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| amudbc wrote: |
6200 for 25 hours
5000 for 20 hours
Any info on prices in Chonqing |
6200 for 25 hours is only 62RMB an hour.
Why would you work for US$9 an hour ?
Less than that if you include any prep work or office hours.
I'm at 9000 for 16 hours, no office or student recruiting hours. |
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amudbc
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Its difficult to get a six month job starting in Novemver with that kind of pay and I dont wanna live in the freezing cold of Shenyang for the winter.
If youve been in China a bit youve probably acquired the knowledge to do less for more. Are you at a language school /uni / or privates?
Anyway, thanks for the help but my real question is how expensive is Chonqing? And does anyone have any info on Aston in Chonqing? |
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rogerwilco
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The Great Wall of Whiner
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I've topped 20k now a month.
Yes, I am in 'freezing Liaoning', and yes, I do work for it, but I live nicely.
At my school, at 5000 a month, you're talking 12 hours a week. And housing provided. |
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xiao51
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| Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 2:29 pm Post subject: See Below |
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| amudbc wrote: |
Its difficult to get a six month job starting in Novemver with that kind of pay and I dont wanna live in the freezing cold of Shenyang for the winter.
If youve been in China a bit youve probably acquired the knowledge to do less for more. Are you at a language school /uni / or privates?
Anyway, thanks for the help but my real question is how expensive is Chonqing? And does anyone have any info on Aston in Chonqing? |
I would like to be helpful as much as possible but from reading all of your posts, I don't think that you have actually hit on any really "warm places to be in China in the winter yet".
Harbin is cold for sure. Shenyang is cold for sure. Jinan is as cold as Shenyang and more dreary. Chongqing is hardly clement in the winter and is bereft of central heat, I believe.
Here is the weather for Chongqing for your kind information.
Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec
average
temperature
(℃) 7.8 9.5 13.6 18.4 22.3 25.1 28.1 28.4 23.6 18.6 14.0 9.3
maximum
temperature
(℃) 18.8 23.7 34.0 35.1 37.9 38.2 40.2 41.7 41.9 35.1 28.7 18.6
minimum
temperature
(℃) -0.3 -0.1 1.2 4.5 10.8 15.6 19.2 18.5 14.3 6.9 3.3 -1.
Please remember that there is no central heat in Chongqing in the winter and -2 C. in an unheated apartment will surely be cold.
Also the air quality in Chongqing is about as bad as it can get in any major city in China and probably ranks as among the worst. The city core has been redone and surely has a great deal of charm and the local cuisine, being Sichuanese by nature, is hot and spicy. There can be frequent dust storms that blow in from the mountains. Traffic is exceptionally heavy and there is really only one functioning subway (tube) line with two others in various stages of planning/development/implementation, I believe.
It's a huge, huge city, almost as large as Beijing, I said almost, and among the largest in China. Like Beijing, Tianjin and Shanghai, it's an autonomous district under direct federal control.
You would never be bored in that city, not at all, not for one minute, that is for sure. RMB 5,000 will not get you many evenings on the town nor will it get you a lot of taxi rides. And if Aston farms you out to schools and other places, you will be spending hours in the commute.
Pictures of Chongqing are here and just look at the visible air pollution in the untouched pictures:
http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&newwindow=1&q=Chongqing&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&biw=1440&bih=799
Why not ask Aston to send you to Chengdu? |
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seamallowance
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If what I have read about Aston on the various forums has any merit, "Aston" is usually followed closely by something to the effect of "sleazy, lying, creeps to be avoided entirely".
"Stay the flock away from Aston" seems to be the popular consensus.
Just a data point. |
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themanymoonsofjupiter
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chongqing has one good thing going for it: the extreme friendliness of the people. i was there for about five days in january and the people were wonderful. as a solo traveler, i met many people who helped me out quite a bit by showing me around a bit (if that's your thing).
as other posters have pointed out, no central heat, and DAMP. i hated the weather. there wasn't really that much to do there. the public transportation is limited to buses and one light rail. even the food wasn't as good as people say.
oh, but, right, is it cheap? it definitely is much cheaper than most cities its size. |
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amudbc
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Actually the winters are quite mild.........the BBc and wikepedia havie it at 9.5 high in January and 5.6 average low. -2 is the lowest recorded temperature so that should be ok. Maybe not warm but not a big problem. The pollution is awful of course but I don't think its enough to put me off.
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| it definitely is much cheaper than most cities its size |
Does this mean you think 5000 rmb for 20 hours is enough if I'm not lavish?
(I'll still be pushing for 6200 when I speak to the manager) |
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themanymoonsofjupiter
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| amudbc wrote: |
Does this mean you think 5000 rmb for 20 hours is enough if I'm not lavish?
(I'll still be pushing for 6200 when I speak to the manager) |
it's not a stellar salary, but given your situation (it seems you're just trying to get into china), it's not bad. and it would be more than 'enough' for me to live on in chongqing...but i do work pretty hard to keep my expenses way down. i try to avoid any meal over 20RMB, ever...never take a taxi unless i'm extremely far from home and the buses are done, never buy a drink in a bar, am very cautious when going to import shoppes...etc. my city is more expensive than chongqing and i get by on 1500RMB or less per month. |
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Zero
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| Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 5:43 pm Post subject: Re: See Below |
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| xiao51 wrote: |
| amudbc wrote: |
Its difficult to get a six month job starting in Novemver with that kind of pay and I dont wanna live in the freezing cold of Shenyang for the winter.
If youve been in China a bit youve probably acquired the knowledge to do less for more. Are you at a language school /uni / or privates?
Anyway, thanks for the help but my real question is how expensive is Chonqing? And does anyone have any info on Aston in Chonqing? |
I would like to be helpful as much as possible but from reading all of your posts, I don't think that you have actually hit on any really "warm places to be in China in the winter yet".
Harbin is cold for sure. Shenyang is cold for sure. Jinan is as cold as Shenyang and more dreary. Chongqing is hardly clement in the winter and is bereft of central heat, I believe.
Here is the weather for Chongqing for your kind information.
Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec
average
temperature
(℃) 7.8 9.5 13.6 18.4 22.3 25.1 28.1 28.4 23.6 18.6 14.0 9.3
maximum
temperature
(℃) 18.8 23.7 34.0 35.1 37.9 38.2 40.2 41.7 41.9 35.1 28.7 18.6
minimum
temperature
(℃) -0.3 -0.1 1.2 4.5 10.8 15.6 19.2 18.5 14.3 6.9 3.3 -1.
Please remember that there is no central heat in Chongqing in the winter and -2 C. in an unheated apartment will surely be cold.
Also the air quality in Chongqing is about as bad as it can get in any major city in China and probably ranks as among the worst. The city core has been redone and surely has a great deal of charm and the local cuisine, being Sichuanese by nature, is hot and spicy. There can be frequent dust storms that blow in from the mountains. Traffic is exceptionally heavy and there is really only one functioning subway (tube) line with two others in various stages of planning/development/implementation, I believe.
It's a huge, huge city, almost as large as Beijing, I said almost, and among the largest in China. Like Beijing, Tianjin and Shanghai, it's an autonomous district under direct federal control.
You would never be bored in that city, not at all, not for one minute, that is for sure. RMB 5,000 will not get you many evenings on the town nor will it get you a lot of taxi rides. And if Aston farms you out to schools and other places, you will be spending hours in the commute.
Pictures of Chongqing are here and just look at the visible air pollution in the untouched pictures:
http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&newwindow=1&q=Chongqing&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&biw=1440&bih=799
Why not ask Aston to send you to Chengdu? |
Please state it in Fahrenheit. The Celsius numbers make no sense whatsoever to those among us who may be Americans. |
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nickpellatt
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| Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Actually the winters are quite mild.........the BBc and wikepedia havie it at 9.5 high in January and 5.6 average low. -2 is the lowest recorded temperature so that should be ok. |
I cant advise on costs, but dont underestimate the cold. I was quite a bit south of you last winter in Guanxi province and the cold was like nothing I have experienced before. I climbed Kilimanjaro last October and not only did China feel colder ... my Kilimanjaro mountain gear wasnt sufficient to really make me warm. Temperatures probably didnt record as low as zero, but the only time I was remotely warm was in bed, inside my sleeping bag liner, wearing a hat! Buildings, including housing, have zero insulation and just as the humidity makes the summers seem hotter, the dampness in the air makes winters colder. Brrrrrrrr |
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xiao51
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| Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 11:34 pm Post subject: |
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| nickpellatt wrote: |
| amudbc wrote: |
| Actually the winters are quite mild.........the BBc and wikepedia havie it at 9.5 high in January and 5.6 average low. -2 is the lowest recorded temperature so that should be ok. |
I cant advise on costs, but dont underestimate the cold. I was quite a bit south of you last winter in Guanxi province and the cold was like nothing I have experienced before. I climbed Kilimanjaro last October and not only did China feel colder ... my Kilimanjaro mountain gear wasnt sufficient to really make me warm. Temperatures probably didnt record as low as zero, but the only time I was remotely warm was in bed, inside my sleeping bag liner, wearing a hat! Buildings, including housing, have zero insulation and just as the humidity makes the summers seem hotter, the dampness in the air makes winters colder. Brrrrrrrr |
For the poster Zero above, there are lots of conversion tables on the Net, should I direct you to one?
As for Nick, absolutely I agree with you. This is something that I have been telling the OP again and again. |
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