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worldwide_soul
Joined: 12 Nov 2007 Posts: 16
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 11:32 am Post subject: Teaching jobs for a 55-year-old man |
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I'm posting for my father who wishes to move with my mom to Japan for about six months next late fall or early winter (or thereabouts).
He is a qualified teacher and is 55 years old. The type of job he is looking for, from what I understand, is one which has a fairly light workload, as he has been teaching for thirty years and isn't looking for a "real" teaching position. So possibly an eikaiwa with pre-prepared materials or something like that. Him and my mother would like to be somewhere in the Kansai area, not necessarily a big city, but they would like to be close enough to Kyoto that they can easily and quickly travel there.
So, my question is, can anyone suggest any companies or schools which sound similar to what he's looking for (and that will hire a 55 year old man who isn't necessarily going to stay a year)?
Thanks for any suggestions. |
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 1:21 pm Post subject: |
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Since 99.99% of jobs offer 12-month contracts, he's either going to have to reconcile himself to breaking a contract or seeing if Westgate Corporation is interested. |
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Quibby84

Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 643 Location: Japan
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Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 1:57 am Post subject: |
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Does your dad have enough money of his own to have an easy job? |
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worldwide_soul
Joined: 12 Nov 2007 Posts: 16
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Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 4:56 am Post subject: |
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To Glenski: I think he'd be okay with breaking a contract. It's obviously not the thing of choice to accept a year-long position knowing you're not planning on fulfilling it. That being said, he's not here looking for a reference of any sort. Also, maybe he'll change his mind and stay a year. In all honesty, it's my mom who only wants to stay 6-months so maybe they'll be able to work something out. Saying that, do you have any other suggestions? I'll let him know to look more into Westgate in any case.
To Quibby: I think this is an experience only about the experience. He's not going to be here to attempt to pay back loans or to make any money, really. Probably the most important point is that he doesn't lose money. So as long as he's making enough to break even and make it back to Canada at the same point he was when he left, it's okay. |
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 8:48 am Post subject: |
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I think he'd be okay with breaking a contract. It's obviously not the thing of choice to accept a year-long position knowing you're not planning on fulfilling it. That being said, he's not here looking for a reference of any sort. |
That's not the point. Think of the many other foreigners who come through here, and those who want to make a bit more of a long-term go at it. If every foreigner breaks his contract (and many do!), it makes all of us look untrustworthy, and it pretty much lets employers set whatever rules they want (some not even within the law, but newbies don't know that). Moreover, I've seen some pretty heady contracts that are probably made precisely because they got burned somehow by a foreigner with no scruples. Nice work. You just made it harder on the next guy, and you just perpetuated the feeling that we are all unreliable arseholes.
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Saying that, do you have any other suggestions? I'll let him know to look more into Westgate in any case. |
One suggestion would be to get your father online and do some of this research himself! No offense, but are you getting paid to do this? He's a big boy and should be able to learn what the ropes are here.
Another is just to research like crazy on as many job ad sites as he can find. There are darned few places that advertise outright for 6-month contracts.
More suggestion. For goodness' sake, if he gets interviwed by someone expecting him to stay a year, don't let on about leaving early! An excuse to go home can always be made up later, or as you wrote, perhaps they will actually choose to stay longer.
If he is planning to support 2 people on one salary, realize how frugal that might have to be in terms of lifestyle, especially if one is in a bigger city. Research this to minimize culture shock. Also, your mom might want to consider what she is going to do when dad is working noon to 9pm. Those are pretty standard eikaiwa hours. If he gets a job, she could come as a tourist for 90 days, or she could get on with a dependent visa, and stay longer, plus with special permission she could even find PT work herself. If she wanted to get the DV and just make some money on the side (selling crafts, teaching cooking, whatever), she wouldn't need the special permission. She should DEFINITELY figure out what she is going to do while he is away! Living in Japan might not be as fun as she thinks, especially if she doesn't know the language. |
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worldwide_soul
Joined: 12 Nov 2007 Posts: 16
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Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 9:09 am Post subject: |
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I totally agree Glenski about the breaking contract part. I am teaching in Japan right now and fully understand the implications of breaking your contract on other foreigners, both present and future. That's why he is trying to find a position for 6 months as opposed to a year-long position that he may have to break.
He has been online researching for.. well probably a year or so, he just seems incapable of making any sort of decision or progress and also claims most jobs are looking for younger, often female, people. (Of this, I have no idea - this is just what I've been told). So I told him I'd post a question for him as I'm on holidays right now and he's quite busy.
Thanks for your input so far anyways - it's much appreciated. It will give him some stuff to think about anyways.
(Oh and about my mom - she's pretty worried about exactly what you said. She's not thrilled about the entire idea, really, but is willing to try, and is trying to come up with somethign to keep herself busy.) |
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stevenbhow
Joined: 13 Mar 2008 Posts: 58
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Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 10:51 am Post subject: ALT |
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One thing he might consider is coming to Japan on a tourist visa in late July or August and see if he can get a ALT position. Most of the dispatch companies loose teachers around the summer months and need to replace them quickly for the remainder of the year. Being an ALT isn't a great job, but he and your mother probably wouldn't starve or go broke either. |
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 12:34 pm Post subject: |
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my father who wishes to move with my mom to Japan for about six months next late fall or early winter (or thereabouts). |
I just reread the post. This stands out.
I am surprised that after a year of searching that your father still has not realized that this timeline is pretty much a horrible time of year to be looking to start. Who is going to give someone a job in winter and divide the time with New Year break, especially if it's a 6-month position?
So, he's busy. He also has problems making up his mind (you said) after a year of looking! I'd say he really needs to do a lot more pinpointing of what he wants (and what your mother wants). Perhaps he has pinpointed too much already. Why the desire for only 6 months? He'll barely make up any start-up costs in that time. Also, to ask for a light work load, 6 month contract, and a job that starts at the end of the year is pretty much shooting oneself in the foot. Light loads are not common here. Heck, people complain about having to spend 25 whole hours in the classroom sometimes, and that's pretty much on the low end of the scale.
What is his reason for coming? Fifty-five is not retirement age in the business where he lives, is it? |
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worldwide_soul
Joined: 12 Nov 2007 Posts: 16
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Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 6:17 am Post subject: |
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All good points, Glenski. Thanks for the input. It definitely gives him more to think about. I have forwarded all this on to him, and he may have to rethink his plan. It's good for him to think about this stuff now, in March, as opposed to later. Thanks for you help! |
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shuize
Joined: 04 Sep 2004 Posts: 1270
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Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 7:30 am Post subject: |
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Anything's possible, I guess. But I think your dad is going to have a hard time finding an employer in Japan who will meet the requirements you posted , i.e. low work hours, short term contract, and a willingness to hire someone considerably older than average.
The fact is, despite his experience teaching, unless he's willing to do some sort of volunteer work or has exceptional Japanese ability, I expect he'll still have to compete for an entry level teaching position.
If he is not firm about coming to Japan, if I were in your shoes I think I might try to steer him to China. From what I hear, he might have better luck with some of the points noted above. |
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