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chuckd74 · Joined: 18 Oct 2006 Posts: 58 Location: KSA

non-sequitor, I was just called today for a HCT Adjunct (sub) teacher for 2 gals goign on maternity leave (supopsedly)

I'll post this as a seperate thread as well

but they require a previous valid, 1year work or resident visa with another group (if I had a job with another group, how could i/would i be working for them?)

this si not as easy to achive as one might think- i have a feind who owns company, i'll pay the cost and i think he can provide the papers

I am still using my bank account with Abu dhabi Islammi Bank from whn I had teh crappy job at ADU (geez, I sound like an "old timer here" ha!) and I have only been here 6 months

they offerd 120 an hor, low/decent @ 2-4 hours per day 5 days a week, until june 26th

they said there are several adjunct teachers with HCt and they have been there for 2 years

opinions?

veiledsentiments · Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA

I answered on the new thread, but the obvious answer is that they hire people who are there on their spouse's visas.

VS

mishmumkin · Joined: 01 Sep 2007 Posts: 929

The only people I know who worked for HCT as adjunct faculty were those, like VS mentioned, on their spouse's sponsorship.

seven seas · Joined: 09 Jan 2008 Posts: 65

In that case, how many of them actually are qualified EFL teachers?

spicegirl · Joined: 29 Mar 2004 Posts: 112

All the adjunct teachers I know at the HCT are qualified EFL teachers. Some of them are more 'mature' teachers whose contracts weren't renewed at other Higher Ed institutions because of age limits on employment. They are highly experienced and qualified teachers whose expertise was no longer valued by their previous employer.

Others are RSA Dip holders who can't be employed at federal unis because they don't have an MA. Other teachers are recent arrivals in the UAE and are looking around for more permanent or full time teaching jobs.

Some are RSA Cert holders who trained with the HCT and were offered part-time teaching opportunities.

All the adjuncts I know are on their spouse's sponsorship.

like2answer · Joined: 21 Sep 2006 Posts: 154

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chuckd74 · Joined: 18 Oct 2006 Posts: 58 Location: KSA

yeah, this seems very "take it or leave it" and the visa issue sesm to be a sticking point

currently, I have a good possilbty in Sohar, Oman- will get the MA online there (ECU's MEd in Educational Technology) in a year and the come back to Dubai with the "magic paper"

life aint bad now as I have an apt in the Springs (tiny) and a few invidiaul clients at 165 an hour x4 days a week (10-15 hrs a week), so the bills are paid

just checking for the next best opportunity

mishmumkin · Joined: 01 Sep 2007 Posts: 929

I can't speak specifically to sohar, but certainly a year at the uni level w/ MA in hand will be worth much more at HCT.

saluki · Joined: 08 May 2007 Posts: 30

I agree.

HCT pay for contact hours only. Outside of that you would have prep, corrections, meetings and plenty of admin.

veiledsentiments · Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA

I would describe 'adjunct' as a system that universities in much of the world use to get their teachers cheaply... underpay them... give them no benefits... and fire them the minute they don't need them. It is 'win-win' for the employer and 'lose-lose' for the teacher.

VS

veralynn · Joined: 01 Nov 2007 Posts: 113 Location: Abu Dhabi

I agree with Saluki. I worked as an adjunct at HCT on 120 dhs per CONTACT hour (a couple of years ago, so they obviously haven't put their rates up in a while) but there's so much admin/red tape/meetings etc etc etc at HCT I reckon at most I was earning 50 dhs per hour of actual work.

chuckd74 · Joined: 18 Oct 2006 Posts: 58 Location: KSA

i was thinking about these contact hours vs real time invested

currently, the visa issue is Red Flagging the entire concept, but i think i will simply call in today and state, after much thought, unless they want to raise the rate, no thank you-

someone has to draw the line and say no when they keep low balling everyone, maybe they will finally get the picture

I will even cancel the interview

as this sounds like they really do use people (i hate this concept) and this place has a alot of money- plus, I wont need "connections" when i have my MA next year

and, HCT would never hire me now without the MA, so on the best day, I'd simply be a middle priced mercenary Adjunct

and, I live in the Springs, so add 2 hours gas and drive time, plus grading and meetings, so yeah, the math makes this much less appealing after checking the numbers

thanks for all your input, saves me a lot of time and money

uaeobserver · Joined: 05 Feb 2007 Posts: 236

Chuckd ----

Congratulations. What subject matter will you be teaching?

seven seas · Joined: 09 Jan 2008 Posts: 65

Wow . Even 120 sounds miserable- without all teh admin etc.

As for the instability issues mentioned, it sounds like soem horro story from Japan...

veiledsentiments · Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA

HCT adopted this adjunct system directly from the US. This is the situation that 80-90% of ESL teachers for adults/university work under in the US... hourly rate for contact hours only... limited number of hours available... no benefits... no job security.

In the UAE, an adjunct job is fine for a spouse... which is also exactly the same in the US. If you want to teach ESL in the US, you best have a spouse with a real job.

VS