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januthin



Joined: 30 May 2004
Posts: 24

PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 3:05 am    Post subject: Fraudulent TESL ads Reply with quote

I was recently swindled out of 250 dollars by someone who claimed to have hired me to teach at his school in Valencia, Spain. This school has advertisements out with most of the major online job-sites.

He asked for an advance of 250 and in exchange the school would arrange flights, visas, etc. Perhaps I have been naive, but everything seemed legitimate, they interviewed me and the "school" even has a real address and phone number. I was ready to pack for Spain and update my email lists again when they asked for more money, and I knew it was a scam.

I'm not interested in getting my money, or in seeing them punished, I just don't want to see any other teachers taken the way I was. We don't make much for what we do, and it's quite a malicious person who would target the ESL community for a scam.

Just so you know: yes, they will go to great lengths; and no, don't ever advance any school anything as a condition of your employment. If you do, it's the last you'll ever see of it. Consider yourself warned.
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spiral78



Joined: 05 Apr 2004
Posts: 11534
Location: On a Short Leash

PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 3:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're not a citizen of an EU country, any school claiming to be able to get you legal working papers in the EU (outside of reputable international schools or schools on military bases, or universities with exchange programs) are ALL SCAMMING YOU.

The general rule is that European schools ALMOST NEVER hire ANYONE from abroad.
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Serious_Fun



Joined: 28 Jun 2005
Posts: 1171
Location: terra incognita

PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 5:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Arrow sorry to read about your experience. Sad

Thank you for posting in order to warn others...did you post to the Spain forum?

I suppose that you can consider yourself fortunate that it was not more than $250...although being burned is never fun.

good luck with your next teaching position.
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ecocks



Joined: 06 Nov 2007
Posts: 899
Location: Gdansk, Poland

PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 8:17 am    Post subject: OUCH Reply with quote

Sorry to hear your tale of woe.

Use the forum for questions/references and NEVER advance the employer money - they would be the ones to advance money to YOU. Plenty of other countries and schools to work in though. If it's what you want to do, try, try again.
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phantombedwetter



Joined: 29 Nov 2007
Posts: 154
Location: Pikey infested, euro, cess-pit (Krakow)

PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Januthin,
Are you going to tell us the name and address of this chomper (I would if i'd been fleeced), or are you just looking for a bit of sympathy and a group hug?
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jwbhomer



Joined: 14 Dec 2003
Posts: 876
Location: CANADA

PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You should put this -- with the name and details of the scammer -- on the SCAM ALERT global thread at the top of the list.
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Kootvela



Joined: 22 Oct 2007
Posts: 513
Location: Lithuania

PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No reputable school would ask a candidate to pay for anything. The school has to pay for everything arranged IF they want to find staff. In the worst case, you are reimbursed for travelling in terms of your contract.
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Justin Trullinger



Joined: 28 Jan 2005
Posts: 3110
Location: Seoul, South Korea and Myanmar for a bit

PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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No reputable school would ask a candidate to pay for anything. The school has to pay for everything arranged IF they want to find staff. In the worst case, you are reimbursed for travelling in terms of your contract.


I agree that if someone asks you for money up front, then you have to wonder what's up with that- usually something bad. But I disagree with "the school has to pay for everything" and "in the worst case, you are reimbursed for travelling."

These things may be true on some places, but certainly not all. While I would never send money to a school on spec, I have on several occasions had to cover my own visa costs. (Paid in the embassy in Chicago, so I know it was legit.) That's how it is in most of latin America. Flight reimbursement would be ridiculous- it just doesn't happen in Ecuador.


Bes,t
Justin
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naturegirl321



Joined: 04 May 2003
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Location: home sweet home

PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 11:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BOttom line, NEVER pay for a job
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