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Teaching with SABIS in and around Dubai,more recent info?

 
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louise123



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 9:35 am    Post subject: Teaching with SABIS in and around Dubai,more recent info? Reply with quote

Hi,

Does anyone have any more recent and positive information on the SABIS teaching scheme in and around Dubai?

I understand from previous discussions that if you are a qualified teacher the teaching system may not be the best, but I am unqualified and would be looking for the cultural experience and a new experience.

Any information would be greatfully appreciated, especially any info on the accomodation provided, how easy it is meet friends e.t.c

Thanks x
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you have read all the Sabis threads, you know the issues. This system is set in stone, and there is little or no expectation of much positive beyond what you can glean from what is already here.

It remains a known commodity for the unexperienced teacher... a place to get a little classroom experience, have something to put on your CV for the next job, and the salary seems to arrive on time. If nothing else, you can learn what not to do. Have low expectations as to quality of their education taught (which is rote, test.. test... test... test...) and dictatorial management. If you can tolerate the negatives, you can at least fund a visit to this part of the world.

The branch that has had the worst press is the military school that they manage in Al-Ain. Avoid that one... If you get an offer from a particular branch, come back and see if you can pick up the latest on it.

VS
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mishmumkin



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's too bad that SABIS/CHoueifat can't blame the bad reputation on a bout of bad management. The truth is that it's pretty much constant in alll their schools. This is because from the top down (in their Gulf schools) the management is very, very controlling of everything. Some schools are marginally better than others (getting out of the Gulf management seems to help), while simply having a sensible head of dept can make it better. Someone on this board works in the Choueifat Al Ain (not the military school), and as she finishes her first year she's quite happy w/ her head of dept and her students. She also came on here and asked loads of questions, so nothing was too shocking when she arrived.

Re-read those threads: they are a good indication of what Choueifat is like. Bear in mind that if you take a job w/ them, stay one year, and then think that you'll find another job in the UAE: This won't happen. As a policy Choueifat does not transfer visas and will let you receive the automatic 6 month ban on work once you leave them. If you ask them for a letter of no objection they will refuse.
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louise123



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for all the info. Its a shame that there is little positive to say about this system but would you recommend it simply for a year to experience a new culture and experience? I wasn't aware of the automatic ban though!Would there be no way around this?

It would be really useful to know of anyone who has actually done the scheme for first hand experience? although any feedback is greatfully appreciated.

Thanks x
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mishmumkin



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

louise123 wrote:
Thank you for all the info. Its a shame that there is little positive to say about this system but would you recommend it simply for a year to experience a new culture and experience? I wasn't aware of the automatic ban though!Would there be no way around this?

It would be really useful to know of anyone who has actually done the scheme for first hand experience? although any feedback is greatfully appreciated.

Thanks x


I've done this w/ first hand experience in 3 of their schools over a 4 year period. I've posted extensively on the pros and cons of working w/ CHoueifat as have others. If you do a quick a search under my handle you should turn these up.

As for the ban, the only way around it is to have new employer and old employer transfer your visa (rather than canceling it). Choueifat absoutely will not do this, nor will they write a letter of no objection. I believe you can pay a large sum of money to lift the ban, but you'd still need the NOC (no objection certificate)...this law is ever-changing, though. Visit the Gulf News online and read the section Ask the Law. There is a section on FAQs, and this question comes up all the time.
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