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cricketontheloose
Joined: 28 May 2004
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Location: Portland, OR, USA
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 Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 1:09 am Post subject: Rookie Questions - Beijing |
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Hi All,
I am applying for a job at a private high school in Beijing. I am certified, have experience teaching various grade levels, and currently teach in an IB program. I also speak fluent Spanish, and have a degree in teaching EFL/Applied Linguistics, and have taught ESL. So- I'm pretty well qualified. I have an acquaintance working there who says I can probably be hired to teach ESL or Lit. (I may also teach primary- that's what I do now).
I have questions about salary though-
with my qualifications, what can I reasonably expect to be paid?
Also, how much will I lose in taxes?
When does the school year start? When is the hiring season?
And, is it possible to tutor on the side in China?
I know these are boring rookie questions, but I'd so appreciate any advice you can offer to help me make an informed decision. Thanks in advance! |
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ShanghaiSurprise
Joined: 03 Mar 2008
Posts: 47
Location: Korea...soon China
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| Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 6:25 am Post subject: |
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| I'm pretty sure tutoring "on the side" is illegal in just about most places you go. China does not allow this type of thing, but they also don't really check as hard for it as other places. |
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cj750s
Joined: 26 May 2007
Posts: 701
Location: Donghai Town, Beijng
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| Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 5:06 am Post subject: |
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if your working in an international school you may well be asked by parents to tutor a child or several in your class..depending on the employer...you may safe in doing so....and this form of tutoring is not illegal...
just make sure your not working for Beanstalk |
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lf_aristotle69
Joined: 06 May 2006
Posts: 546
Location: HangZhou, China
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| Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 12:57 pm Post subject: Re: Rookie Questions - Beijing |
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| cricketontheloose wrote: |
Hi All,
I am applying for a job at a private high school in Beijing. I am certified, have experience teaching various grade levels, and currently teach in an IB program. I also speak fluent Spanish, and have a degree in teaching EFL/Applied Linguistics, and have taught ESL. So- I'm pretty well qualified. I have an acquaintance working there who says I can probably be hired to teach ESL or Lit. (I may also teach primary- that's what I do now).
I have questions about salary though-
with my qualifications, what can I reasonably expect to be paid?
Also, how much will I lose in taxes?
When does the school year start? When is the hiring season?
And, is it possible to tutor on the side in China?
I know these are boring rookie questions, but I'd so appreciate any advice you can offer to help me make an informed decision. Thanks in advance! |
Have a look at a couple of the other current threads: E.g. 90 days probation, and the POLL about contracts. You might get some more ideas.
The market for "International Schools" is diverse. At the top end you have schools like The Western Academy in BeiJing. Do a G00GLE and you'll see they openly publish teacher salaries and conditions.
There are quite a few 2nd tier 'International' schools. Some better, and better paying, than others. But, they are quite legit.
Then there are shonky/dodgy/hokey ones.
If you do enough research here and online generally you should be able to find which yours is.
Salary wise. Western Academy says they pay over 18000rmb/mth for a new (just out of teachers college) teacher, and it goes up to 29000+ for 9+ year experience... They pay 12 months plus a bonus month!
An International school in ShangHai is currently advertising and offering 12600-17800rmb/mth... They don't seem to pay for the summer holiday period...
Nevertheless, depending on your workload (16-25 45 minutes classes being the normal range for fulltime teachers in China) those salaries are all a fair bit higher than the average Conversational teacher earns, even in BeiJing or ShangHai.
If it's a professional school you'll probably have to do extra-curricular activities and maintain office hours as well though. A lot of "teachers" here on Daves get their back up at that. But, if you enjoy the environment and the kids, it's fine I reckon.
I'm pretty sure that tutoring on the side for extra money is still illegal. But, as long as you are in the good books with the school's admin they will probably not rock your boat. However, some schools could have an arrangement whereby they arrange paid tutoring and you have to share it with the school.
If you are doing parttime work away from the school, maybe keep it very secret....
Good luck,
LFA |
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cj750s
Joined: 26 May 2007
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Location: Donghai Town, Beijng
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| Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 1:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Nevertheless, depending on your workload (16-25 45 minutes classes being the normal range for fulltime teachers in China) |
40 + hours per week in many cases...PTA and weekend sport days..parent nights...marketing events that double as performances for the parents...
a full time job... |
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james s
Joined: 07 Feb 2007
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Location: Raincity
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| Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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CJ...
40 hours per week is normal for a workweek earning $35000 - $50 000 per year in a normal business role.
For Y10000 per month, i would do 18 classes in the role of teacher. and from what i hear about the prices there now, i probably wouldnt budge for less than 15000.
teachers do not do 40 classes per week unless they are overloaded, or classes are handed to them and there is nothing else to do but talk in the class.
Second, side tutoring is always illegal, even if the school sets it up for the teacher. it is illegal coz u are not paying taxes on it.
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years after my horrid experience at that international school, i still maintain what happened there was an injustice to all involved. and it was an abuse of power at QTI.
and staff were overworked like crazy. |
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