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resigning from HCT- need advice and guidance
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nightlyessence



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 5:27 pm    Post subject: resigning from HCT- need advice and guidance Reply with quote

I am thinking of resigning from HCT and want to know how that happens if it's within the probation period. Things I wonder about are:

1) what happens to the costs that HCT has paid (housing, education, visa expenses, tickets, etc.) do I pay them back?
2) do I have to give a 3 or 6 months notice and what happens if I don't.

Please elaborate fellow HCTers....


Thanks-

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nomel



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You have to pay back the 30,000Dhs for the housing allowance. Not sure about the other things.
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You would have to pay them back the furniture allowance and the education allowances for your kids. I'm not sure about visa expenses and tickets, but I would guess yes. Realistically all you have coming is your salary for the time worked.

Financially I would say to finish out at least the semester and give the proper notice. That could at least save you from repaying your children's school fees. Your contract should specify most of this I believe.

My advice would be to not make hasty decisions. You just got there.

VS
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nightlyessence



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 6:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I do resign it would be for very real reasons that I cannot devulge on this public forum. I intend on staying in the country. On my contract it mentions the furniture allowance but I wasn't sure of the other expenses...

Do you know what the notice period is if you have 6 months probation and if you have 1 yr probation? Also, a friend told me that if I leave in my probation period according to UAE law, I do not even need an NOC.


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Umm Banat



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 7:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your contract will specify your notice periods. For teachers within a 12 month probation this is usually 3 months.
If you don't complete a year you will have to pay back the 30 000Dh furniture allowance. You may get escorted to the airport and put on a plane, if you leave before the year, unless there is very good reason for leaving.
If there have been school fees paid, you will have to reimburse any from the day you leave.
Can you do til the end of semester? You are more likely to be allowed to stay in the country that way.
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nightlyessence



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stay in the country??? why would this be a problem? I would be leaving them for another employer.
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Umm Banat



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You cannot so easily transfer your visa. You can be blocked for 6 months. They brought you here and can send you home.
Be very careful to tread gently.
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MrScaramanga



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 8:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you resign, HCT must cancel you residence visa. Essentially, you have to leave the country and re-enter as a tourist if you want to stick around. I believe there is a 30 day "grace period" after visa cancellation during which you can stay in the country until you are ready to leave.
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nightlyessence



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

what if they give a No objection?
and what if I go under my spouse's sponsorship?
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MrScaramanga



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, your spouse is not sponsored by you, I guess. Because if she/he is, HCT would also have to cancel that visa. I am not sure about the NOC situation. You should check with HR at your college. Then again, I understand you may want to get this info discretely... Perhaps someone else on this board knows tha answer to your question. The problem is that each individual's situation is unique, with ramifications, and it is difficult to give advice without all the pieces of the puzzle Very Happy
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kiefer



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 6:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If I do resign it would be for very real reasons that I cannot devulge on this public forum


Can I infer from that comment that perhaps one reason you wish to leave is that you are appalled by the duplicitousness of your working environment?
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kiefer wrote:
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If I do resign it would be for very real reasons that I cannot devulge on this public forum


Can I infer from that comment that perhaps one reason you wish to leave is that you are appalled by the duplicitousness of your working environment?

Should one ever 'infer'? Laughing She is probably easily identifiable by the organization by her posts here, so perhaps you should pm her if you want more detail.

In fact, nightlyessence, this board is very likely monitored by your employers and from your posts here, they would know who you are. Your best case may be to go to management now - while you are in the probationary period and keep it all above board.

They can make it very very difficult for you to transfer to another employer. Because they are a 'government' employer, they probably do have the ability to keep you from taking another job.

VS
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uaeobserver



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're in Dubai - I don't think either of the Directors there sign no-objection letters ------ and I know Central Services won't do that.

This means you'd have a very hard time staying in-country --- and transferring your employment. Exception would be if your new employer had a connection to someone with an important last name.

Incidentally --- runners are getting tough, these days. Don't know if you realize this --- but the ministry of interior has a system that sends an SMS to your PRO the minute passport control keys in your visa number.
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mishmumkin



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nightlyessence, I believe if you were sponsored by your spouse for the new job you would be ok. That said, do they know you work at HCT? They might want the NOC regardless, just to ensure you left HCT on the up and up (I believe HCT requires NCOs from employees leaving one UAE employer for them).

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chuckd74



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:49 pm    Post subject: HCT Adjunct offer Reply with quote

non-sequitor, I was just called today for a HCT Adjunct (sub) teacher for 2 gals goign on maternity leave (supopsedly)

I'll post this as a seperate thread as well


but they require a previous valid, 1year work or resident visa with another group (if I had a job with another group, how could i/would i be working for them?)


this si not as easy to achive as one might think- i have a feind who owns company, i'll pay the cost and i think he can provide the papers

I am still using my bank account with Abu dhabi Islammi Bank from whn I had teh crappy job at ADU (geez, I sound like an "old timer here" ha!) and I have only been here 6 months


they offerd 120 an hor, low/decent @ 2-4 hours per day 5 days a week, until june 26th

they said there are several adjunct teachers with HCt and they have been there for 2 years

opinions?
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