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		| Miyazaki 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 7:25 pm    Post subject: Shanghai University Positions |   |  
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				| I'm looking for a univesity position in Shanghai that will pay me at least 20,000 RMB a month with housing? 
 Is that acheivable or not?
 
 I got an offer in 2004 at the Shanghai University of Law for 4,000 RMB and turned it down.
 
 A buddy of mine in Beijing was at an international Korean school making 20,000 RMB and so I'm guessing that there are jobs out there that pay well over the 4,000 RMB mark.
 
 Thanks for any info.
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		| Anda 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 11:59 pm    Post subject: Um |   |  
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				| The big money is mainly in company teaching. |  | 
	
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		| China.Pete 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 12:42 am    Post subject: Check Out the Above Post |   |  
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				| "I'm looking for a univesity position in Shanghai that will pay me at least �20,000 a month with housing. Is that achievable or not?" -- Miyazaki 
 If you read more of your own post carefully...
 
 "A buddy of mine in Beijing was at an international Korean school making �20,000..." -- Miyazaki
 
 ...you might realize that the higher-paying jobs for foreign teachers are often to be found, not in the universities, but in some of the more specialized K-12 schools. Of course, landing one of these will require the right credentials--or a lot of luck.
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		| Lobster 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 6:19 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| As China Pete points out, uni positions paying 20k/mo. are as scarce as hens' teeth. If you're very, very lucky and have some connections, you may be able to pull 12K from a uni. They usually pay between 4-7.5k. International schools are a different case. You can make 20-30k/mo. if you have a teaching certificate and are a licensed teacher back home. Otherwise, if you want to make 20k a month here, you'll have to think about doing the following (warning: this may violate contracts or applicable laws): 
 1. Get a basic 20-hour-per week mill teaching job with no office hours. That should get you 10-12k.
 2. Get a part-time middle/high school/mill job for your free afternoons or mornings. That will bring in another 6k at 150-200 rmb/hr.
 3. Sign up with a local business training outfit to do evening work twice a week for a couple of hours. That's about 3k more.
 4. Get a few private students for the weekend or get other weekend work. That's another 2-3k.
 
 There you have it. Just trade off all your free time for working hours, and you'll soon be rolling in dough.
 
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		| Miyazaki 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 10:38 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| thanks for the suggestions and info. |  | 
	
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		| Anda 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 11:57 am    Post subject: Um |   |  
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				| What Lobster is saying is only doable for a short while before you would burn out. If you have stack of prep with you then maybe but if you had to prep then you wouldn't sleep. 
 I'm not in a big city but I have to push / force my students to study where I'm at. I'm getting somewhat old but 25 hours is enough. Teaching adults that want to study I could go 60 hours a week but not with young people.
 
 The other thing with Shanghai is that if you are moving about a lot fast, then the between job transport costs are not cheap.
 
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		| therock 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:04 am    Post subject: Re: Shanghai University Positions |   |  
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	  | I'm looking for a univesity position in Shanghai that will pay me at least 20,000 RMB a month with housing? |  
 Try lowering the expectation to 8000RMB and you will get some offers. 20,000RMB for working at a university singing songs for 45 minutes........no chance.
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		| eslstudies 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 7:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Shanghai University Positions |   |  
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	  | Miyazaki wrote: |  
	  | I'm looking for a univesity position in Shanghai that will pay me at least 20,000 RMB a month with housing? |  
 Try lowering the expectation to 8000RMB and you will get some offers. 20,000RMB for working at a university singing songs for 45 minutes........no chance.
 |  Hey, I managed 5 years in unis, 3 of those in Shanghai, without singing anything.
 I was on 8,000 there. I think its actually dropped a bit since.
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		| 2 over lee 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 9:37 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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	  | 1. Get a basic 20-hour-per week mill teaching job with no office hours. That should get you 10-12k. 2. Get a part-time middle/high school/mill job for your free afternoons or mornings. That will bring in another 6k at 150-200 rmb/hr.
 3. Sign up with a local business training outfit to do evening work twice a week for a couple of hours. That's about 3k more.
 4. Get a few private students for the weekend or get other weekend work. That's another 2-3k.
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 wow...hell
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		| Anglichanka 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 9:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Um |   |  
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	  | Anda wrote: |  
	  | The big money is mainly in company teaching. |  
 
 Which companies? Any ideas on finding names/ contact details? I have 20 years experience and PhD + teaching credentials. This includes a year and a half at Beijing Normal and eleven and a half years at Macau Univ.
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		| un 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 11:07 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Check out www.thatsshanghai.com 
 180--200 RMB/hour
 Oxford English, EF Corporate etc.
 
 BUT...usually after work...so hours are limited
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