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franziska
Joined: 20 Apr 2007 Posts: 9
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Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 7:23 pm Post subject: climate |
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I would like to do a stint in the Middle East. Everyone says you can get used to the hot weather..guess I will find out if I get there. I am prepared to go to Oman, UAE, Qatar or Kuwait. Is the climate the same in all? Is any one of those countries less hot than the others. Which is the windiest? Cloudiest? (I have heard that it's blue 365 days a year in Qatar for example) Thanks |
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veiledsentiments

Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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All of the Gulf has pretty similar weather. The summer lasts from April well into November with days from 40-50C. Kuwait tends to be the hottest in the summer and the coolest in the winter (you need a heater for a couple months in mid-winter). It is also not as humid since the prevailing winds are usually off the land.
Qatar and the UAE are very hot and VERY humid if one lives on the coast because the prevailing wind is off the sea. Almost all of the cities offering jobs are on the coast. It is sunny for most of the year... some years you have no rain... other years you have some cloudy and dreary spells in the winter. (I believe Doha is on the coast... someone correct me if I'm wrong)
Oman has the most varied climate. Still very hot... not as humid as Qatar or the UAE, but more humid than Kuwait. Inland cities are almost never humid. Salalah gets hit by the tail-end of the Indian monsoons in the summer and gets very misty and green.
Most people arrive in the Gulf in August and are shocked to find that even though they arrive in the middle of the night, when you step out of the airport, you think you have stepped into your oven. If it is a place like Dubai or Abu Dhabi, you will want to look around for the person who just slapped you with the hot steaming towel. It can be quite a shock to the system if you have come from somewhere cool and dry.
I can't recall much difference in wind. To me none of them seemed windy, but I grew up on the prairies of the US where gale force winds are the norm, so YMMV...
VS
I found that it takes a couple of years to completely acclimate and you too will start wearing a jacket when it get below 25C.  |
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lall
Joined: 30 Dec 2006 Posts: 358
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Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 6:47 am Post subject: Doha |
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That was a very crisp description of the climate, VS.
I've lived in Oman and in Bahrain. Bahrain can get humid, since it is such a small island country.
VS, You're right. Doha is on the coast. Haven't lived there for a long time. Have been a holiday visitor.
That "hot, steaming towel" thing would just describe it right for someone from the cool and dry climes, though in my case, the difference isn't much since I come from a port town on the western coast of India. |
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ghost
Joined: 30 Jan 2003 Posts: 1693 Location: Saudi Arabia
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Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 3:48 pm Post subject: re |
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Away from the coast is much better.
People who have worked in Al Ain (UAE) have told me that the climate is much more pleasant (because it is dry in the desert) compared with Dubai, which is more humid, on the coast.
Similarly, in Saudi, Riyadh (inland and dry) has a more pleasant climate compared with Dharan and Al Khobar (East coast) or Jeddah (West coast).
If you check MSN weather, and type in the cities you are interested in, you will see that the differences in temperature and rainfall vary a lot in the different locations of the regions.
Everyone will agree that hot and humid is not very pleasant to put up with. But, I have not yet been in the region, but would guess that even in the Gulf, the feeling of humidity in the Gulf countries would not be as high as that which is experienced in places in South East and even North East Asia in summer. Seoul in summer is very unpleasant in July/August, with humidity so bad, that last summer, books and other items left in an apartment were all mouldy within weeks. I have also been to Japan in August, and the humidity was awful.
Nice climate would be somewhere like Sanaa, Yemen, but the pay and perks are not quite so high in that country. But lovely climate. Sanaa, is situated at altitude (1800m), which really helps in keeping temps very manageable throughout the year.
I'm also told that Yemen is quite a nice place to live and work, and there are good language schools in Sanaa, for learning Arabic. Al Ain, UAE, also has a good climate, according to reports from teachers there. Very little humidity there.
The Kenyan runners who have changed nationalities and compete for Qatar, never train or live in Qatar, but continue to train and live in Kenya (at altitude outside Nairobi in the Rift Valley).
Similarly, Rachid Ramzi, the world champion runner, formerly from Morocco, but now representing Bahrain, also never lives or trains in Bahrain, but continues to do his training in Morocco, just showing up for races wearing the Bahrain vest.
The fact that those world champion runners never train in their adopted countries, indicates how difficult it is to do any serious athletic training in the Gulf, in most locations, especially for around 8 months of the year.
Looking at the weather stats, most places have quite good conditions from November to March, with average temps in the mid 20's during the day, and cooler at night. But check the stats for accurate details. Climate can be important in choosing a location, and Taiwan was a place I found very unpleasant to work in because of the heat and humidity. The worst was teaching classes right after lunch. That was the real torture session for teachers and students alike.
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Stephen Jones
Joined: 21 Feb 2003 Posts: 4124
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Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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Everything depends on where you are in the peninsula. If you are in Abha it will be cold and rainy for much of the year. Get to Dubai and Al-Hasa and you have the hottest summer temperatures in the inhabited world (together with 50-60% humidity). In Riyadh you will need a heater three or more months a year, but it will be boiling most of the year, and warm in the day even in winter; on the other hand it is a dry heat, so if you don't mind a temperature of 110 Fahrenheit you can have pleasant daily walks.
Another thing is that nobody has mentioned dust storms, which are exceptionally unpleasant. Kuwait in particular suffers from them, and they are probably enough of a reason in themselves to avoid the place.
One thing to bear in mind is that the weather is something you don't really experience anyway. You go from air-conditioned car to air-conditioned building. |
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veiledsentiments

Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 10:51 pm Post subject: |
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The humidity in much of the hot months in the UAE, Bahrain, and likely Doha is worse than SE Asia in the worst of their summers. Many times in the morning I would get up to water pouring down the outside of the windows... and it is NOT rain!! It is just condensation. If you wear glasses, for 6-8 months of the year, when you walk outside, your glasses fog up - something that had only happened to me previously in the extreme winters where I grew up and your glasses would fog when you entered the house from outside.
I did hear of people who came back from summer leave to find their furniture mildewed.
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ghost
Joined: 30 Jan 2003 Posts: 1693 Location: Saudi Arabia
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Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 1:05 am Post subject: re |
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One thing to bear in mind is that the weather is something you don't really experience anyway. You go from air-conditioned car to air-conditioned building. |
To air conditioned gym might be added.
In Canada if you work in the Inuit territories in the far North, you are given a 'hardship' adjustment which greatly increases your salary (by some 22-25%) as no one would voluntarily choose to work in those places.
In the Gulf there is no such thing, but the salary and perks (substantial leave) compensate, somewhat, for the difficult climate, and fortunately most Institutions break up in Mid June, leaving the Instructors the choice to leave the country in the torrid months of July/August, save a few brave souls like Scot who come back in July to teach the one month summer courses.
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veiledsentiments

Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 3:14 am Post subject: Re: re |
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ghost wrote: |
...fortunately most Institutions break up in Mid June, leaving the Instructors the choice to leave the country in the torrid months of July/August, save a few brave souls like Scot who come back in July to teach the one month summer courses. |
Just so that you can't claim that we didn't warn you. Torrid is the word for May, June, July, August, September... and sometimes part of April and October. The highs tend to be between 40-50+ for that whole time. But, the 'official' temperature is never over 49 - because at 50 or above, outside workers must get off work... and we couldn't let that happen.
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ghost
Joined: 30 Jan 2003 Posts: 1693 Location: Saudi Arabia
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Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 5:13 am Post subject: re |
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Just so that you can't claim that we didn't warn you. Torrid is the word for May, June, July, August, September... and sometimes part of April and October. The highs tend to be between 40-50+ for that whole time. But, the 'official' temperature is never over 49 - because at 50 or above, outside workers must get off work... and we couldn't let that happen. |
That's going to be tough.
Are the gyms at the Unis. well air conditioned, and is there a gym culture in Saudi Arabia, or are the gyms mainly used by the expats?
Are dress codes in the gym fairly flexible, on the compounds (shorts ok?).
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Cleopatra

Joined: 28 Jun 2003 Posts: 3657 Location: Tuamago Archipelago
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Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 11:41 am Post subject: |
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In Riyadh you will need a heater three or more months a year |
Granted, winters here can be cooler than many expect, but I don't know anyone - even locals or those who have become used to the hot climate - who uses a heater for 'three or more months' in Riyadh. Three or more weeks would be more like it. Even if we take this last winter, which was exceptionally cold by Riyadh standards, I only recall having my heating on for a few weeks in January, and then not all the time. I could manage without a heater in Riyadh during the winter, but coulcn't survive more than a few days without my AC in the height of summer.
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The fact that those world champion runners never train in their adopted countries, indicates how difficult it is to do any serious athletic training in the Gulf, in most locations, especially for around 8 months of the year. |
Well, you could interpret it that way, even though Morocco and Kenya are hardly known for their mild climates either. Alternatively, you might say that it indicates that their 'adopted countries' have not really been 'adopted' and that relatively welathy Gulf countries simply pay more (to make up for their own lack of talent) than impoverished African nations.
BTW we have the Qataris to thank for the new FIFA regulation which states that merely holding the passport of a nation does not in itself qualify you to represetn that nation. Maybe now they will learn that there are some things in life that money just can't buy.... though maybe not. |
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ghost
Joined: 30 Jan 2003 Posts: 1693 Location: Saudi Arabia
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Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 4:17 pm Post subject: re |
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Well, you could interpret it that way, even though Morocco and Kenya are hardly known for their mild climates either |
Morocco has a much better climate for Athletics compared with Saudi. There are seasons, and while the summers are hot, they are not much different (in most places, except the desert in the South) to the climate in Nice, France and other Mediterranean venues. Most of Morocco coast is on the Atlantic side, but the climate is similar to Mediterranean.
Of course, in summer, the Moroccans train in the mountain town of Ifrane in the Atlas mountains.
All the Kenyan runners come from the Rift valley, mainly around Eldoret, situated at around 1600-2000m above sea level. The climate there is very good, and no extreme heat at that altitude. Training in Doha, Qatar, for 8 months of the year would be next to impossible outside. The heat would make it impossible to do a quality workout.
This changing of nationalties makes a mockery of international sport.
Could you imagine Shaquille O'Neil competing for China in basketball, and being called a 'Chinese' person?
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007

Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 2684 Location: UK/Veteran of the Magic Kingdom
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Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 4:49 pm Post subject: Re: re |
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ghost wrote: |
Could you imagine Shaquille O'Neil competing for China in basketball, and being called a 'Chinese' person?
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Why not?
Well, 80% of NBA basketball players are African American!
Hasheem Thabeet, Hakeem Olajuwon, Dikembe Mutombo, and Luol Deng are some of the famous African-American basketball players in the US, and are being called 'American' persons and heroes!! |
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