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soapdodger

Joined: 19 Apr 2007 Posts: 203
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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 3:38 am Post subject: Mistakes site |
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Here's an interesting site that catalogues common manglings of the language, malapropisms etc. Essential reading for some posters !
http://eggcorns.lascribe.net/ |
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jwbhomer

Joined: 14 Dec 2003 Posts: 876 Location: CANADA
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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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This sort of thing is a regular feature in the Dilbert newsletters, which should be a mine of examples.
One that annoys me is "rack" for "wrack", as in "a racking cough". I'll post it on Eggcorn next time I see an example in the wild.
I imagine we'll see some of these errors here on Dave's. We are enjoined not to call attention to our colleagues' flaws, but there's nothing to say we can't forward them to Eggcorn!  |
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SueH
Joined: 01 Feb 2003 Posts: 1022 Location: Northern Italy
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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 2:28 pm Post subject: |
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I wish I still had a copy of a CV for a government inspector (OFSTED for UK types) who visited a college I was at. It was used in our staff-room as entertainment: 'see how many mistakes you can find'... it was that appalling. |
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arioch36
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arioch36
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TheLongWayHome

Joined: 07 Jun 2006 Posts: 1016 Location: San Luis Piojosi
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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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Supposably you can teach English irregardless of the mistakes you make. |
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MO39

Joined: 28 Jan 2004 Posts: 1970 Location: El ombligo de la Rep�blica Mexicana
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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 5:07 pm Post subject: |
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TheLongWayHome wrote: |
Supposably you can teach English irregardless of the mistakes you make. |
Yes, but what sort of English will you be teaching your unsuspecting students?  |
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fluffyhamster
Joined: 13 Mar 2005 Posts: 3292 Location: UK > China > Japan > UK again
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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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Nice link, Soap, but one of the best places to see mangled language is still Dave's! |
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quoi_de_neuf?
Joined: 06 Mar 2007 Posts: 48
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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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...I guess it has to be in a very spacific context, n'est-ce pas?
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TheLongWayHome

Joined: 07 Jun 2006 Posts: 1016 Location: San Luis Piojosi
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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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MO39 wrote: |
TheLongWayHome wrote: |
Supposably you can teach English irregardless of the mistakes you make. |
Yes, but what sort of English will you be teaching your unsuspecting students?  |
I was kidding with supposably and irregardless though they are taken from various colleagues. That's just it though, where's the quality control? |
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MO39

Joined: 28 Jan 2004 Posts: 1970 Location: El ombligo de la Rep�blica Mexicana
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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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TheLongWayHome wrote: |
MO39 wrote: |
TheLongWayHome wrote: |
Supposably you can teach English irregardless of the mistakes you make. |
Yes, but what sort of English will you be teaching your unsuspecting students?  |
I was kidding with supposably and irregardless though they are taken from various colleagues. That's just it though, where's the quality control? |
I was kidding too and realized that you were knowingly using incorrectly- spelled words . It's the colleagues who unknowingly make these kinds of mistakes that I'm concerned about! |
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johnslat

Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 13859 Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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Ah, the English - she is funny:
supposable
Main Entry:
sup�pos�able
Pronunciation:
\sə-ˈpō-zə-bəl\
Function:
adjective
Date:
1627
: capable of being supposed : conceivable
� sup�pos�ably \-blē\ adverb
irregardless
Main Entry:
ir�re�gard�less
Pronunciation:
\ˌir-i-ˈg�rd-ləs\
Function:
adverb
Etymology:
probably blend of irrespective and regardless
Date:
circa 1912
nonstandard : regardless
usage Irregardless originated in dialectal American speech in the early 20th century. Its fairly widespread use in speech called it to the attention of usage commentators as early as 1927. The most frequently repeated remark about it is that �there is no such word.� There is such a word, however. It is still used primarily in speech, although it can be found from time to time in edited prose. Its reputation has not risen over the years, and it is still a long way from general acceptance. Use regardless instead. |
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Chancellor
Joined: 31 Oct 2005 Posts: 1337 Location: Ji'an, China - if you're willing to send me cigars, I accept donations :)
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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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johnslat wrote: |
Ah, the English - she is funny:
supposable
Main Entry:
sup�pos�able
Pronunciation:
\sə-ˈpō-zə-bəl\
Function:
adjective
Date:
1627
: capable of being supposed : conceivable
� sup�pos�ably \-blē\ adverb
irregardless
Main Entry:
ir�re�gard�less
Pronunciation:
\ˌir-i-ˈg�rd-ləs\
Function:
adverb
Etymology:
probably blend of irrespective and regardless
Date:
circa 1912
nonstandard : regardless
usage Irregardless originated in dialectal American speech in the early 20th century. Its fairly widespread use in speech called it to the attention of usage commentators as early as 1927. The most frequently repeated remark about it is that �there is no such word.� There is such a word, however. It is still used primarily in speech, although it can be found from time to time in edited prose. Its reputation has not risen over the years, and it is still a long way from general acceptance. Use regardless instead. |
In the case of the former, the mistake is using it where "supposedly" should be used. As for the latter, I guess if enough people insist on using a word that means "not regardless" when they mean "regardless" it'll eventually become standard usage. After all, it's lazy the speakers that win in the end as American society continues to devolve; and the only people who really care about good grammar and using the right words are people who, in the eyes of the average Joe, don't matter because they're all a bunch of nerdy geeks. |
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soapdodger

Joined: 19 Apr 2007 Posts: 203
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Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 3:23 am Post subject: |
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A few years ago the "Average Joe" would have had some grudging admission that becoming a "wordy geek" might result in an improved standard of living, a better salary and so on. Thanks to enormous amounts of money carefully invested in such things as rap music, Superstar ( there's even a version of Superstar in Slovakia, for God's sake!), and MTV " culture", the accepted philosophy is that being an oaf actually pays. Buffoonery is IN, to stay.... |
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johnslat

Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 13859 Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 3:27 am Post subject: |
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"Buffoonery is IN, to stay...."
Ah, I KNEW my day would come. |
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