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How many fully apostilled transcripts to bring?
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dsherter



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 7:59 pm    Post subject: How many fully apostilled transcripts to bring? Reply with quote

As if I weren't already freaking out enough about everything, in comes another intrusive thought:

Does each school need an apostilled copy of school stranscripts? Which they then keep or fail to return? Will they accept a xeroxed fully apostilled transcript?

How many of these damed apostilled transcripts will I need? Is it like kleenex - never too many???

Advise please!

Thanks!
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MO39



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From my experience, you don't need to have transcripts apostilled, just the diploma(s) that says you were awarded your degree(s). And you just need to have them apostilled once - you don't need one for each school you apply to. The apostilled diplomas (or any TEFL-related certificates you may have) are needed more for applying for an FM3 than for a job.
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dsherter



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the answer:

Do schools tend to want the real sheepskin itself, or will they be pacified by say, a faxed certificate of graduation from the school's registrar? How distinctly official do papers have to look? Visible imprimatur? Watermark? Sealed enveloppe?

In other words, what EXACTLY do I have to fork over to be pulled out of the unemployment gutter? Apostilled transcript-wise?

Anybody know this more or less for sure?

Thanks, wise-wise
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MO39



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, you need the real sheepskin, first to have it apostilled before you get here, then to present at Migraci�n when you apply for your FM3. You can bring along copies of your transcript, but I've never been asked for mine, either when applying for a job or by the lawyer who's helping me get my FM3.
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dsherter



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What Pomp! Well I've done worse for jobs. Thanks for the info - time to write the registrar again!
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dsherter wrote:
What Pomp! Well I've done worse for jobs. Thanks for the info - time to write the registrar again!


Get used to it if you're planning to spend some time in Mexico. This is a very bureaucratic society where the authorities need to see official papers with gold lettering and ribbons and such. A transcript that merely states you have received your degree is not enough. In fact, in general, people here are very big on certificates: if you go to a two-hour workshop on teaching methods, you'll probably receive a fancy certificate on the way out.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Again, thanks for the info, but sister, I ain't gotta get used to nothin', if you'll pardon the vernacular. I've been irritated by officiousness up to this point and I expect I'll take my irritation to my grave. A fine sense of mild outrage is one of the few sentiments that makes life worth living.

IMHO.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dsherter wrote:
Again, thanks for the info, but sister, I ain't gotta get used to nothin', if you'll pardon the vernacular. I've been irritated by officiousness up to this point and I expect I'll take my irritation to my grave. A fine sense of mild outrage is one of the few sentiments that makes life worth living.
IMHO.


I understand your irritation with seemingly senseless bureaucratic requirements and procedures, but when dealing with official type people in Mexico, it's best to hide your feelings of frustration and occasional outrage because they will only make things worse, IMHO.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not to mention that the grave will find you a lot faster than if you just let it slide.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MELEE wrote:
Not to mention that the grave will find you a lot faster than if you just let it slide.


There's always that to consider too...
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dsherter



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 12:48 am    Post subject: Ladies.... Reply with quote

I said a modest outrage - not a modest mouthfoam. Even as potential members of the DAR (and aren't we all) we can acknowledge in ourselves a teeny weeny speck of cooly considered righteous indignation.

Different cerebral strokes for different cerebral folks.

This said - I'll git er done.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can expect to have many "modest outrages" while dealing with bureaucracy in Mexico.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm having them as I type.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 2:03 pm    Post subject: walking around money Reply with quote

Which suggests another useful topic.....
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 7:43 pm    Post subject: apostille Reply with quote

You can get the original sheepskin apostilled or a notarized copy of such (thats what I did to avoid putting the seal on the original) and it works just fine. Bring the original along for the heck of it though.

Get your birth certficate notarized as well. Marriage certificates and divorce decrees if they apply.... AND any paperwork relating to change of name. What a pain my 2 prior name changes have been here in Mexico when I have to connect my birth certificate to my current name.
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