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Endless_Highway



Joined: 22 Oct 2007
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 6:41 am    Post subject: A little help please... Reply with quote

Hello to anyone living in Turkey.

I'm looking at heading there to look for a job in Aug and am trying to decide which city to go to.

Really, I only have a few specifics in mind. I want it to be a small city (lets say 20,000-200,000) and I want to be on the Med or Aegean sea. I don't really want it to be flooded with expats, but that one is pretty low on my priorities. I've looked at a few different cities, but most are really touristy areas and the jobs don't look very promising from what I've read here on Dave's. Here's a run down of my impression of these from what I know.

Bodrum (I know it's huge in the summer, but have heard they have the best diving)

Marmaris (also touristy, but, again, good diving)

Fethiye (touristy, but less so. Still decent diving)

Cesme???

Alanya (Size? Lonely Planet says 100,000 Wikipedia 400,000. Not a big issue for me, still under a million. Haven't heard much about diving there.)

Yes, diving is obviously a concern for me. I'm also thinking about just looking for work doing that. I'm a divemaster, but figure I'll be able to make it better as a teacher and do my diving part time.

I have a degree and a year of experience in Korea. I'm thinking about doing a TEFL, but haven't decided if it's even worth it.

Any advice on the cities or the TEFL would be great. I'd love to get the names of some schools if anyone lives or knows people who live in the Aegean/Western Med area.

Cheers!
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FGT



Joined: 14 Sep 2003
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Location: Turkey

PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

None of the places you mention has much in the way of teaching opportunities, not in language schools anyway and you don't have the qualifications to teach in a high school.

I'm not sure what a "divemaster" is but if it qualifies you to teach diving then you may have more success in finding a job doing that if you want to be in the towns you mention.

Have you thought about living and working in Izmir and going away to dive at weekends? On the Aegean coast there isn't anywhere else that has many jobs in teaching. It may also be possible to commute from Cesme to Izmir.

There is also a language school in Canakkale and I believe the diving is good around there.
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Otterman Ollie



Joined: 23 Feb 2004
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Location: South Western Turkey

PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cesme is cool for diving its about 50 miles outside of Izmir 45 minutes by car 1 hour by bus.
you can teach in a language school and if you leave it till the last minute before approaching a private high school you may get a pleasant surprise.
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happeningthang



Joined: 08 Oct 2003
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 2:37 pm    Post subject: Re: A little help please... Reply with quote

Endless_Highway wrote:


I have a degree and a year of experience in Korea. I'm thinking about doing a TEFL, but haven't decided if it's even worth it.



Cheers!


I was under the impression that you need a TEFL or CELTA cert to work legally.
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Endless_Highway



Joined: 22 Oct 2007
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for all the replies and I'll look into those cities. I have considered Izmir, but was avoiding it because of its size. If big cities are where the jobs are, that's where I'll go, but I'm trying to avoid it if at all possible. I had planned on diving on the weekends, but was hoping that I could hook up with a dive shop and lead tours in exchange for free dives (a common deal). That's why the ocean is so important.

Do any of you live in or around the towns that have been mentioned?


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I was under the impression that you need a TEFL or CELTA cert to work legally.


Is this true? To be honest, I haven't really looked into the visa requirements because most schools say that they will handle it. I know that some places require it, but maybe the others are all working without a visa and doing runs every few months.

While the idea of leaving the country every few months is nice, visa runs are too short to be anything but a hassle. I'd much rather do it the legal way.

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you don't have the qualifications to teach in a high school.


I guess that doesn't surprise me. Do you have to have a BA / Masters in Education or do they just require a TEFL/CELTA? I've thought about getting one just to make things easier on me, but I was going to do it the half@$$ed way and just go with it online. I figure the curriculum is the same, just without the observed teaching practice. I can get a glowing letter of recommendation from one of my Korean co-teachers, so one would think that that would count for 10 hours of observed teaching practice...(gulp)...right?

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if you leave it till the last minute before approaching a private high school you may get a pleasant surprise.


What would you consider last minute? I've heard that most schools hire to start in Sept. Is that correct?


Thanks for all the helpful replies. The Korean site is crawling with trolls just looking to pick a fight over the dumbest little things. You guys rock.
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FGT



Joined: 14 Sep 2003
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Location: Turkey

PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are considering working illegally (ie without a work permit and/or qualifications) it would still be possible to avoid the visa run if you obtain a (non-working) residence permit. I believe that you need to show a healthy bank balance and an address in Turkey but that the permits are relatively easy to come by.
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Endless_Highway



Joined: 22 Oct 2007
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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 2:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm... I'll keep that in mind, but I'd rather not work illegally. It's too easy for a company to take advantage of you if they can hold that over your head. Less pay and no leg to stand on if they try to screw you over.

Is it legal to have privates in Turkey?
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FGT



Joined: 14 Sep 2003
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Location: Turkey

PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 6:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In order to teach legally in Turkey you need both a degree and recognised EFL teaching certificate.

Work permits are arranged through your employer. Most contracts prohibit teaching anywhere else.

Teaching privates is likely, therefore, to be illegal.
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