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mouradishere



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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 6:29 pm    Post subject: Master Degree from Tunisia Reply with quote

Hello everybody, I'm an English teacher from Tunisia with 9 years of experience and I'll be working in Abu Dhabi starting from August, I'll be teaching English in a secondary school. The pay is 2300 USD plus single accommodation plus health insurance plus airfare.
First, I would like to know what you think of the package.
Second, concerning the qualifications, I have a Master Degree in American Civilization from a Tunisian university and I would like to know if it can make any difference at all if I apply for a university post in Abu Dhabi (because I learnt from other threads in the forum that only MAs from the USA or the UK are accepted Sad )
any information would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you.
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Gnocchiman



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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 3:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mouradishere, your package sounds good.

The current head of communications at UGRU/ UAEU is from Tunisia and probably got his Master's from Tunisia. He's been in his position for a very long time, something like 18 years, and has made many differences here. Many. He'll probably be leaving at the end of the year though. If he did it, I'm sure you or anyone could!

I wish you all the best in your new life here!
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 3:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know if that is a good package for you or not, but I can tell you that they accepted my MA degree from the American University in Cairo. AUC is US accredited, but certainly not a US university. Laughing

I wonder how helpful this MA would be for a TEFL teacher because it is not a language degree - EFL or Linguistics. (or is it?) Most employers now are even requiring native speakers to have a related MA.

(How about UAEU, gnocchiman?)

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mishmumkin



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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 5:52 am    Post subject: Re: Master Degree from Tunisia Reply with quote

mouradishere wrote:
Hello everybody, I'm an English teacher from Tunisia with 9 years of experience and I'll be working in Abu Dhabi starting from August, I'll be teaching English in a secondary school. The pay is 2300 USD plus single accommodation plus health insurance plus airfare.
First, I would like to know what you think of the package.
Second, concerning the qualifications, I have a Master Degree in American Civilization from a Tunisian university and I would like to know if it can make any difference at all if I apply for a university post in Abu Dhabi (because I learnt from other threads in the forum that only MAs from the USA or the UK are accepted Sad )
any information would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you.


2300 dirhams/month is a bit low on the K-12 scale. Most decent schools have upped their starting wages to at least around 10,000 dirhams/month for qualified teachers. The fact that you are not a native speaker and presumaby not a qualified teacher for k-12, though, does mean you can expect a lower wage than the going rate in an English-medium school. In summary, while it is below the average starting wage it is right on track for a non-qualified, non-native teacher. Hope that helps...
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773



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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 7:22 am    Post subject: Re: Master Degree from Tunisia Reply with quote

mishmumkin wrote:

2300 dirhams/month is a bit low on the K-12 scale.


The OP said that the pay offered was 2300 dollars, not dirhams. Assuming that s/he did indeed mean dollars, that's not bad. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 8:22 am    Post subject: don't hold your breath Reply with quote

The high-paying and good benefit offering employers (i.e. government tertiary employers) can be notoriously biased against non-native speakers and non-western degrees. Best if you have near native-speaking competency for your MA to count and of course they can always hide behind the curtain of it not being in TESOL/Applied Linguistics if they like (although they usually mask this if they don't want it to count against you, with the words 'or a related field'.) Sad and grotesquely unfair, but true.
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mouradishere



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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 10:10 am    Post subject: Re: Master Degree from Tunisia Reply with quote

773 wrote:

The OP said that the pay offered was 2300 dollars, not dirhams. Assuming that s/he did indeed mean dollars, that's not bad. Very Happy


Yes 773, I did mean US Dollars.
Thank you all for the replies, but I have another question: are there BA of English in the UAE universities ? and if so, do they study only linguistics or history and civilization as well ? because I taught American Civilization, British Civilization and Human Rights in GB and I wonder if I can teach these subjects to university students trying to get their BA in English.
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have come across with HR people who are mostly prejudiced against non-English speaking country degrees. This is especially true when you are not a native speaker. A friend of mine had an MA degree from Canada from a different field (International relations), HCT did not consider it as acceptable.
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For English language teachers this is what HCT requires:
Requirements:
� Master's Degree in TEFL or Bachelor's Degree with TEFL Diploma
� Minimum of 3 years teaching experience at tertiary level
� Experience in curriculum development and student assessment
� Knowledge of contemporary teaching practices and computer assisted learning
From the most recent advertisement.

I can think of several non-native speakers teaching English at HCT and at least one is from Tunisia.
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 2:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Master Degree from Tunisia Reply with quote

mouradishere wrote:
773 wrote:

The OP said that the pay offered was 2300 dollars, not dirhams. Assuming that s/he did indeed mean dollars, that's not bad. Very Happy


Yes 773, I did mean US Dollars.

US$2300 is 8500 Dhs, so it was only a typo in mishmumkin's post. Her point was that qualified teachers are getting 10,000 Dhs to give a comparison. So, if you have certification to teach in the schools, 8500 would be a bit low for a teacher with 9 years of experience.

Mourad... look at the UAEU website to see what majors are offered. I just glanced at the Humanities department and they do offer a degree in English literature, but you might want to see if they list classes elsewhere on the site. I fear that you might find that they will require PhD's to teach content courses.

Once you are in the Emirates working, you might find it easier to figure out your possibilities.

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mishmumkin



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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, VS. THat was my point. 2300 USD/8500 dirhams is low for an experienced and qualified teacher. A qualified native speaker w/ 9 years of experience would be coming in well over 10,000 dirhams/month at a decent school.
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PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2008 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gnocchiman wrote
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The current head of communications at UGRU/ UAEU is from Tunisia and probably got his Master's from Tunisia.


Actually he got his MA at Reading in England. There's quite a Reading mafia at UGRU - or used to be.


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He'll probably be leaving at the end of the year though.

Are you sure? I thought he was just one of those people who says at the beginning of every year that this year will be his last...

To get back to Mourad, the salary seems a little low. UAEU Faculty of Humanities has been known to employ people with only MAs on an hourly basis but for that you need to be in Al Ain and also you need a full time job as well, or sponsorship from a spouse. Do check the university web-sites though to see if there's anything which would suit your skills. Unfortunately this place loves paper qualifications far more than it loves relevant experience. They'd probably not allow Andrew Motion to teach creative writing at UAEU as he has no PhD!
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mouradishere



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PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2008 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thank you all for the replies. and yes VS I guess I'll have to be there to try to find something suitable, although I'm not as optimistic now as I was when posting my question ! Sad
Anyway, I am also interested in the experience itself, just for a change !
As for the compensation, am I allowed to teach in a part time job or in private mentoring ? and is that rewarding ? Here in Tunisia there are strict regulations regarding private mentoring, for instance, you can't give private lessons to pupils in your class, and you have to get a written permission from your Regional Education District before giving those lessons, and above all, they are controlled and you can expect an inspector to just drop in on you to see how you're doing... Well, these are the regulations, this doesn't mean they are always enforced, but nobody I guess wants to do something unlawful or unauthorized !
Back to Abu Dhabi, I haven't a clue about the practice around the question of part time jobs and private mentoring, so any feedback would be more than welcome.
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 1:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mouradishere wrote:
thank you all for the replies. and yes VS I guess I'll have to be there to try to find something suitable, although I'm not as optimistic now as I was when posting my question ! Sad
Anyway, I am also interested in the experience itself, just for a change !
As for the compensation, am I allowed to teach in a part time job or in private mentoring ? and is that rewarding ? Here in Tunisia there are strict regulations regarding private mentoring, for instance, you can't give private lessons to pupils in your class, and you have to get a written permission from your Regional Education District before giving those lessons, and above all, they are controlled and you can expect an inspector to just drop in on you to see how you're doing... Well, these are the regulations, this doesn't mean they are always enforced, but nobody I guess wants to do something unlawful or unauthorized !
Back to Abu Dhabi, I haven't a clue about the practice around the question of part time jobs and private mentoring, so any feedback would be more than welcome.


Murad, is the employer going to find the accommodation or are they just giving you the money and telling you to sort it out? The salary isn't impossible to live on, but it is below-average. Most apartments need to be paids in one or two checks-will your employer do that for you, or is it up to you to sort out how to pay the rent up front?

As for private tuition, it is illegal but happens all the time. Usually you'll pick up leads at work. Parents might approach you, colleagues will pass them along, and occasionally a head-of-dept will spread the leads out to his/her subordinates. These are not things that one speaks about openly in the staffroom, and I would not share that I was giving private lessons with just anyone. Science and maths teachers tend to earn more than secondary English teachers when it comes to these lessons.

Some schools will do official exta lessons after school in which the teachers supplement their income (paid out by the school). Extra income can come in the form of additional clubs after school. This is not common, but it certainly does occur.
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 2:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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He'll probably be leaving at the end of the year though.

Are you sure? I thought he was just one of those people who says at the beginning of every year that this year will be his last...


Yes, it is very likely he will either leave or be forced out at the end of this year. There's a new policy at UGRU which states: if a coordinator has been in his/her position for too long, then their "services will no longer be required" *click*. Being that he has held this position for a very very very very long time, one must assume his head is on the chopping block, no? The only thing that could save him is that there appears to be a clause in this new mandate that says it only applies to coordinators who are competent and well-respected by staff. If this holds true, then he'll be safe for another 18 years.
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