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Gab
Joined: 09 Apr 2008 Posts: 26 Location: Canada
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Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 12:21 pm Post subject: BANK - International Transfers |
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Hi everyone, I have an important question:
If I NEED to send roughly 300$ to a Canadian bank account every month, what is the best way to do this?
BEST way implies low/no bank fees. Speed is not an issue.
My ideas are:
Internet transfer
Money order
Mail a cheque
Where's the best place to convert pesos to Canadian dollars?
Anyone have past experience with this?
Also I thought about opening an account with Scotia Bank here in Canada, I've heard they are established in M�xico D.F., any comment? |
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dixie

Joined: 23 Apr 2006 Posts: 644 Location: D.F
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Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 2:11 pm Post subject: Re: BANK - International Transfers |
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Gab wrote: |
Also I thought about opening an account with Scotia Bank here in Canada, I've heard they are established in M�xico D.F., any comment? |
I did the same thing before moving here. Scotia is well established here. However, there is no connection.  |
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hlamb
Joined: 09 Dec 2003 Posts: 431 Location: Canada
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Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 4:29 pm Post subject: Re: BANK - International Transfers |
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dixie wrote: |
Gab wrote: |
Also I thought about opening an account with Scotia Bank here in Canada, I've heard they are established in M�xico D.F., any comment? |
I did the same thing before moving here. Scotia is well established here. However, there is no connection.  |
Yep, had the same problem. |
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sarliz

Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Posts: 198 Location: Jalisco
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Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 4:38 pm Post subject: |
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If you do a search for this topic, you can read all of my past ramblings with this problem, with the difference being a US bank instead of a Canadian one.
The short version of the answer is to set up two Paypal accounts, and send money between the two. I think it ends up being about a 3% charge per transaction, vs. the $20-$50 (US) the banks here would charge. However, setting up the accounts isn't very user friendly, and can take a while to do and figure out. |
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Oreen Scott

Joined: 11 Jan 2008 Posts: 179 Location: Oaxaca, Mexico
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Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 11:09 pm Post subject: Scotia Bank |
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I was talking with a Scotia bank representative this week on an entirely different matter - Rick Hansen Wheels in Motion event.
I asked why Scotia was in Mexico. I was told the Scotia Bank has been international for over 100 years and is represented in over 50 countries.
Larry, the Scotia bank rep I was talking to, gave me his email address and said once I had more details regarding my finances to send him the details and he would send me a list of the Scotia branches in Mexico. I suspect he is able to do far more than that.
So, you see, there is a connection - Scotia Bank is a Canadian bank operating internationally.
I don't have any more details right now because currently my priorities are elsewhere. But, when the time comes, I'll get in touch with Larry.
When I have more details I'll gladly share. |
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notamiss

Joined: 20 Jun 2007 Posts: 908 Location: El 5o pino del la CDMX
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Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 11:49 am Post subject: |
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There is a corporate connection, but if it has translated into any substantial advantages for the ordinary account-holder, we have yet to hear about it.
When Scotiabank first acquired Inverlat a few years ago, we investigated whether there would be any advantages to switching our Canadian account to Scotiabank, since we had a Mexican account in Inverlat, or Scotiabank as it is now called in Mexico, too. At that time there were none at all.
Later we heard a rumor that withdrawing money from a Scotiabank ATM in Canada with a Mexican Scotiabank card would incur lower fees than using the same card at a Canadian ATM of any other bank, but we were unable to confirm whether it was true. |
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dixie

Joined: 23 Apr 2006 Posts: 644 Location: D.F
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Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 2:32 pm Post subject: Re: Scotia Bank |
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Oreen Scott wrote: |
I was talking with a Scotia bank representative this week on an entirely different matter - Rick Hansen Wheels in Motion event.
I asked why Scotia was in Mexico. I was told the Scotia Bank has been international for over 100 years and is represented in over 50 countries.
Larry, the Scotia bank rep I was talking to, gave me his email address and said once I had more details regarding my finances to send him the details and he would send me a list of the Scotia branches in Mexico. I suspect he is able to do far more than that.
So, you see, there is a connection - Scotia Bank is a Canadian bank operating internationally.
I don't have any more details right now because currently my priorities are elsewhere. But, when the time comes, I'll get in touch with Larry.
When I have more details I'll gladly share. |
I talked with my rep too. I doubt Larry can do much beyond give you banking locations (which you can easily find online as well). I even had my rep send a letter (through my father when he came to visit) to help me get an account opened faster. I didn�t have an FM3 yet, so was hoping it might help get things moving, it was useless.
There really is no (or little) connection beyond name.
However, if you do find something else out, PLEASE do share!!  |
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notamiss

Joined: 20 Jun 2007 Posts: 908 Location: El 5o pino del la CDMX
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Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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Back to Gab's original question, I just remembered another way. This is a way used by many Mexicans in the U.S. to send money home to their families in Mexico.
You would need a bank account in Mexico and a person in Canada whom you trust 110%. You give a card from your Mexican account to your trusted person, and every month they use the card to withdraw $300 in cash from your Mexican account at a Canadian ATM, and deposit it in your Canadian account, or pay it to whatever institution is supposed to receive the payment. |
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Gab
Joined: 09 Apr 2008 Posts: 26 Location: Canada
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Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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Excellent!
We have 2 very interesting options:
Set up 2 paypal accounts *(1 Canadian, 1 Mexican) and do online transfers
OR
Set up a Mexican bank account, and give a debit card to a TRUSTED Canadian to withdraw and deposit in the Canadian bank.
So the real question becomes: Which method would limit the fees?
In my opinion, paypal SHOULD be better, because there is only a 1 time currency exchange fee.
The bank would have the exchange fee, PLUS the fee for withdrawing from another banks ABM *(or ATM or whatever)
Can anyone validate this?
P.s. I spoke to HSBC and ScotiaBank representatives, don't bother, it's 3$ per withdrawal with a Canadian card while in Mexico, EVEN if it's an HSCB/Scotia teller, ABM, etc... |
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notamiss

Joined: 20 Jun 2007 Posts: 908 Location: El 5o pino del la CDMX
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Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 2:16 pm Post subject: |
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It's hard to pick your way through the information about Paypal fees, but it looks like the fee for sending $300 would be either 3.8% or 4.9%. In other words, definitely more than $3. In addition, they make money on the currency transfer.
Cross-currency ATM withdrawals have the reputation of offering the best rates for currency exchanges (compared to exchanging cash at a bank or exchange house, at least), so it seems likely the rates would be better than PayPal, too.
All in all, from what I can figure out it looks as though the trusted intermediary option would be cheaper. |
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obinhwan
Joined: 05 May 2008 Posts: 23
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Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 2:14 pm Post subject: |
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Super noob here. I talked to one of the Scotiabank guys too, but i one of the one that was specialized in online banking. He said email transfers would work, $1.75 each. I don't much more about it other than that, but if the exchange rate is favourable to paypal or an atm, then I would imagine this would be the best way to go. |
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sarliz

Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Posts: 198 Location: Jalisco
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Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 3:01 pm Post subject: |
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Just a word of warning: I had that same conversation with my guy at Citibank (Citibank and Banamex are the same company), who assured me that I could link up all of my Citibank and Banamex accounts online and move money between accounts with great ease, all of which turned out to be completely false when I got here. Really, you need to talk to the bank administrators on the Mexican end, as their policies will dictate what you can do, not their well-meaning foreign counterparts. |
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