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Teaching chlidren vs Adults

 
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naggs



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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2008 5:36 pm    Post subject: Teaching chlidren vs Adults Reply with quote

I am interested in teaching English in Asia, Latin America and Spain. I have been condserding becoming certified through Cambridge course.
I noticed that there is the CELTA for teaching adults or one for teaching children.
Are their more teaching oppurtunites for children or adults in Asia, Latin America and Spain?
Do the certification classes differ greatly?
Say i decided to to be certified teaching children and then later apply for a job teaching adults.. will it make a difference what my certification is in?

-Stephanie
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2008 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

'condserding?' 'Are their more teaching oppurtunities?' Sorry, but we are English language teachers here and it's normal for us to notice these kinds of things. It's our job.

Yes, the approaches and methods used for children differ quite significantly from those used with adults.
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willraber



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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2008 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is my understanding correct in that the CELTA must be completed
first before taking the module for teaching young learners?
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Anda



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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2008 8:45 pm    Post subject: Um Reply with quote

They like to see an English teaching certificate in many places other than that it doesn't matter. Here in China most want two years teaching experience as well. The experience they want is from universities, colleges or public schools not language institutes.
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2008 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Asia is a pretty big region. Can you pin it down a bit? Cambodia? Japan? China? Vietnam?
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fluffyhamster



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Location: UK > China > Japan > UK again

PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2008 12:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

willraber wrote:
Is my understanding correct in that the CELTA must be completed
first before taking the module for teaching young learners?


Yeah, to do the 'YL extension to the CELTA' you need to have completed the CELTA already. Those without any sort of certificate (not even a CELTA) would take either the full CELTYL or the CELTA, depending on which type of learner they would prefer or might have to teach (though I wonder if the CELTYL and especially the YL extension to the CELTA would (be seen to) equip one better than competitors with degress in childhood education, or if a teacher with especially the CELTYL or better in TYL would have quite the higher-level language awareness to be able to immediately deliver with adult learners).

http://www.cambridgeesol.org/exams/teaching-awards/celtyl.html
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Justin Trullinger



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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2008 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

An unfortunate reality in many parts of the world (I've lived and taught in Spain, Italy, and Ecuador; lived in several other countries when I wasn't teaching English.) some of those doing the hiring won't have any idea what your cert actually means.

If you have a BA as well as your Cambridge cert, you could probably find work teaching either children or adults, or some of each, in Spain or Latin America with the CELTA. (Where are you from? Legal work in Spain can be extremely hard to come by if you aren't European.) CELTYL might be less useful on the market, simply because it's less well-known as an acronym. (I realize that this is making it sound like those who will hire you may be ignorant. But facts is facts!)

As an entry level teacher in the markets you mention (I know nothing about Asia, but the others...) you really can't afford to specialize. You'll probably teach some adults, some kids, some business English, and some exam prep to get by. For this situation, I'd recommend getting the CELTA or another reputable cert, and reading up on teaching children.

I think that to go further in your research, you'll want to narrow it down to some countries and investigate specific jobs with specific schools in those countries. Latin America is huge, and though the language is sometimes more or less the same, the market for teachers varies greatly from one place to another.

And I'd second the advice about watching your spelling as well. I know that we all type quickly here, and that anyone can make mistakes. But the "their" vs "there" thing kind of gets on my nerves. I know, I've been teaching too long, but I'd appreciate it if you could stop posting that.

Best,
Justin


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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2008 12:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's the extremes that have good pay, young children or business English or exams. Best thing is to pick what appeals to you.
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naggs



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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Justin Trullinger wrote:
(Where are you from? Legal work in Spain can be extremely hard to come by if you aren't European.)


I am from the U.S. and was hired today to teach at a summer camp for young children in Spain. There was no talk about legal paper work so I think it depends.
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Justin Trullinger



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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I am from the U.S. and was hired today to teach at a summer camp for young children in Spain. There was no talk about legal paper work so I think it depends.


If there was no talk of legal paperwork, I think you can rest assured that you don't get any. If they haven't asked you for signatures, documentation, and a lot of paperwork to get you a visa, well, they couldn't process one without you noticing.

Which, for a summer camp in a country as lovely as Spain, why not? But I'd bet money that you'll simply be working on your 3 month tourist visa.


Best,
Justin
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Dragonlady



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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 5:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Justin Trullinger



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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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