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marg252
Joined: 25 Mar 2007 Posts: 55
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Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 3:26 am Post subject: Where do the good students live? |
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I teach in China and can't believe how badly behaved my students are. In researching other countries, I keep pulling up threads about how awful all of the students are. So, where are the good students? Or, are kids just really badly behaved in every country when faced with a foreigner who can't talk to their parents and can't reprimand them in their language? |
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rebecca_lr24
Joined: 16 May 2008 Posts: 3
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Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 7:11 am Post subject: |
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I am very sorry to hear your experiece in China. But to be frank, children are naughty and naive no matter where they are living. There is no so-called good students or bad students because it very natural that they behave differently facing different people. And it is your, I mean the teacher's job to teach them how to behave properly. Am I right? The teacher should think out more teaching methods to draw their attention to you lecture. I believe that if all the teachers love their students and throw themselves into their teaching career, they will be respected and loved by their students. |
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Kent F. Kruhoeffer

Joined: 22 Jan 2003 Posts: 2129 Location: 中国
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Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 7:42 am Post subject: |
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If I had to choose, based on the countries where I've taught, it would be Japanese kids. Of all the nationalities I have had in the classroom, they were the best in terms of respect, cooperation and discipline. Probably the brightest as well. In fact, now that I think back on it, I really miss those kids. Can't say that about every nationality I've taught. |
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marg252
Joined: 25 Mar 2007 Posts: 55
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Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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rebecca_lr24 wrote: |
I am very sorry to hear your experiece in China. But to be frank, children are naughty and naive no matter where they are living. There is no so-called good students or bad students because it very natural that they behave differently facing different people. And it is your, I mean the teacher's job to teach them how to behave properly. Am I right? The teacher should think out more teaching methods to draw their attention to you lecture. I believe that if all the teachers love their students and throw themselves into their teaching career, they will be respected and loved by their students. |
I knew I would get a must-be-your-fault response.
I absolutely love the kids I teach, and get the impression that it is mutual from most of the 650 of them I see a week. I consider them to be by far the best thing about my job or life in China. But, they are naughty. Period. However, I think that I am doing as well or better than pretty much all the other foreign teachers I talk to. I'm asking if having a white face and limited language skills in Asia dictates to children that they can get away with more, and if you feel this is not the case in other countries. Even when I look at the boards over in Turkey and Mexico, it seems riddled with people that find their students behavior to be atrocious. And, by the simple nature of the fact that these people are consulting other people for guidance and trying to find solutions, I highly doubt that they are all careless, slack, backpackers. I'm certainly not-I love teaching children. But, that certainly doesn't mean that if I spend hours preparing mesmerizing classes on subjects that interest my students I would have all 45 7 year-olds sit angelically listening with hands folded and participating at proper times. No, I would still have kids flicking rulers and erasers and talking non-stop and doing homework for other classes, etc... But, the same kids I teach don't do these things when confronted with a chinese teacher.
So, why? And is it like this everywhere? |
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james s
Joined: 07 Feb 2007 Posts: 676 Location: Raincity
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Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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rebecca_lr24
Please... stop this.
95% of the students that I had, with the exception of about 20% of my last post, were bad.
The local teachers were also not so good, using threats and fear to make students remember everthing. It ended up producing a lot of, but not all, non-thinking,memorizing, fearful, test cheaters. |
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marg252
Joined: 25 Mar 2007 Posts: 55
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Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 12:26 am Post subject: |
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james s wrote: |
rebecca_lr24
Please... stop this.
95% of the students that I had, with the exception of about 20% of my last post, were bad.
The local teachers were also not so good, using threats and fear to make students remember everthing. It ended up producing a lot of, but not all, non-thinking,memorizing, fearful, test cheaters. |
(((hug)))
I tutor one of my 3rd graders after school on fridays. I like her very much, so last week I asked her why her class is so bad when I teach them. She said, essentially, that they aren't scared of me. Then she explained that the other teachers scream at the children if they are bad, and that I don't so they aren't frightened in my class. Then she looked up at me, smiled, and said, "That's why we love Margaret!"
Great.
Where was your last post? |
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