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Guy Courchesne
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| Anyone know how easy or difficult it is for Mexican citizens (without a US green card) to land ELT positions in China? |
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The Great Wall of Whiner
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| Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 10:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Not trying to sound funny, but it might be equally easy for Chinese to go to Mexico to teach ESL. |
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Guy Courchesne
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| Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 11:05 pm Post subject: |
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| The Great Wall of Whiner wrote: |
| Not trying to sound funny, but it might be equally easy for Chinese to go to Mexico to teach ESL. |
Could very well be for all I know. I've met one Mexican woman who went to teach a business program at the uni level in Beijing, but she had high qualifications and spoke several languages fluently.
I'm asking as someone here with 20 years ELT experience is thinking about going and asked me about China. |
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North China Laowei
Joined: 08 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 11:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Guy Courchesne wrote: |
| The Great Wall of Whiner wrote: |
| Not trying to sound funny, but it might be equally easy for Chinese to go to Mexico to teach ESL. |
Could very well be for all I know. I've met one Mexican woman who went to teach a business program at the uni level in Beijing, but she had high qualifications and spoke several languages fluently.
I'm asking as someone here with 20 years ELT experience is thinking about going and asked me about China. |
Estimado Guy,
The question is not whether it is possible -- technically it is possible -- but rather is it actually administratively doable under the current set of visa rules. If she is thinking of coming to China between now and the end of October / beginning of November, the chances of her being given a Foreign Expert Card are probably close to zero in most of the major areas of the country. I would even venture to say that it may be problematic in the more remote areas, too. At least Mexico is NOT on the list of thirty-three countries (officially published) for which the citizens of those countries find it extremely difficult to obtain visas at all in this period. Horror stories and stories of stress and distress have been rather abundant on this Board of late and probably reflect the accurate state of things.
Currently, in the major economic centers of the country, ELS positions are restricted to citizens of the five approved countries (the United States, Canada, Great Britain (with discrimination towards Northern Ireland), Australia and New Zealand. The iron fist has come down, strikingly so.
All of that being said, ask your friend to check out the job postings on www.eslteachersboard.com/china. Positions for teachers of Spanish as a Second Language appear with some frequency (meaning at least once a month) and jobs can be had in that field.
The job market in China remains very hot but with many, many conditions attached to, notably country of origin, and to a lesser degree, ethnic background from the country of origin.
If you need more help, please feel free to PM me.
NCL
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Guy Courchesne
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| Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 1:54 am Post subject: |
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| Thank you...not the answer I wanted but very helpful, I appreciate it. |
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Anda
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| Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 4:17 am Post subject: Um |
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| I met a Mexican who was teaching in a big city nearby to where I work a month ago. I think he had a green card but for the US. He was a really nice chap and had mastered a fair command over speaking Chinese. |
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Fike2308
Joined: 30 Jun 2007
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Location: CHINA
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I haven't seen or met any Mexicans here which is kind of a bummer but it's not like I came to China to hang out with Mexicanos.
Anyway, I have seen job ads looking for Spanish teachers, not many but a few.
So, I suppose if someone from Mexico wanted to work in China they might have a shot at a job like that....
I guess Mexico-China relations also come into question and this is something I know basically nothing about. |
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englishgibson
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| Currently, in the major economic centers of the country, ELS positions are restricted to citizens of the five approved countries (the United States, Canada, Great Britain (with discrimination towards Northern Ireland), Australia and New Zealand. The iron fist has come down, strikingly so. |
the poster's correct
i once had an experience with a teacher from israel that had his Z visa refused in guangdong/canton...south africans have got the same issue
so sorry to disappoint you Guy..looks like you're up for a midnight run with a bodacious mexican on the way to china 
a word of advice is that an F visa might be issued on an invitation letter from a company and i'd encourage you to investigate this one...with such a visa he/she might be allowed to work although receiving monthly income is really against the regulations when on F visa
cheers and beers to hot mexicanos coming to china  |
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flutterbayou
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 10:22 am Post subject: who works in China |
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I know large numbers of South Africans and Filipinos teaching in China, as well as a large French community.
And if you go up North, you shall find many teachers from South America.
Over the years I've not seen discrimination toward North Irelanders.
Where is this data coming from? |
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Song&Dance
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Guy truth is the further you go into the hinterland, the easier it is for an L2 to land a job. There are planty of hinterland jobs that go unfilled every year. Last year there was a shortage of more than 5,000 FTs. Mainland china is also 400,000 Chinese teachers short this next year.
My advice is just send resumes to schools on www.chinatefl.com It is free. Shotgun the resume to remote provinces. That is the best way to answer your inquiry. |
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