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Paying off debt in China . . . 200 USD/month!!!

 
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smuvkat25



Joined: 09 Jun 2008
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Location: USA

PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 1:30 am    Post subject: Paying off debt in China . . . 200 USD/month!!! Reply with quote

Greetings,

I am currently working on my M.Ed. In TESOL in the US and I was wondering if some of the veterans could fill me in on newbie payscales for someone coming to China with a year of ESL teaching experience. Furthermore, I will have a student loan amount of 200 US dollars / month.

With 1-year experience (ESL) under my belt, could I make enough in China to live comfortably, sock a few bucks away and pay my bill for my student loans every month? Also, I hear it is pretty easy to get privates in China. Can someone expel this myth if it is not true?

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Regards,


Nick from Cleveland, Ohio USA
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Eyrick3



Joined: 29 Mar 2008
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Location: Beijing, China

PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 2:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I put at least $500 away every month, and I still manage to live quite well.

There are small things that count: buses over taxi's, eating with locals as opposed to in western restaurants, drinking at restaurants instead of expensive bars, and, of course, location, location, location.

There's no doubt that I wouldn't be saving this money if I was living anywhere else. I've been in Harbin, Beijing, and, now, a smaller city in the south. Harbin was by far the least expensive city I've lived in, but my current place of residence is a close second. I saved little money in Beijing and have heard similar things about Shanghai.
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Anda



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 3:11 am    Post subject: Um Reply with quote

In general for someone new here in China with just one year of experiance the answer would have to be no. You could exist and do it if you were somewhere like Shanghai with quite a bit of luck. But take today I sent about $750 to the US for something I wanted and it cost 5,500 RMB which is 1000 more than I earn in a month. Send $200 a month and live the life here? Ho, ho! in most locations.
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kungfucowboy83



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 4:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

it all dends on you

what kind of job you get
what kind of spending you do
etc

in a 4500rmb/month job in beijing no
in a 11000rmb/monthjob in hebei easy
in a 14000rmb a month job in shanghai probably
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smuvkat25



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 5:11 am    Post subject: thanks Reply with quote

Thanks for all the replies.

As far as my spending goes, I'm pretty thrifty. I do enjoy the occasional beer and night out. However, I'm not a party animal. As far as jobs are concerned, what am I looking at for salary given my experience (1 year ESL)? ***NOTE: Looking for a balance between big city/burbs***

Any suggestions.

Much appreciated.

np
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smuvkat25



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 5:14 am    Post subject: Eyrick, do you teach privates? Reply with quote

Do you teach privates? How's that market in your area? I hear China has a ton of potential in that department. I would think I would need to supplement my income with tutoring/privates on the side to bank some extra cash and pay of my student loans . . .


np in cleveland, ohio usa
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smuvkat25



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 5:20 am    Post subject: decisions . . . decisions . . . Reply with quote

Kungfucowboy83 ,

You mentioned: in a 4500rmb/month job in beijing no
in a 11000rmb/monthjob in hebei easy
in a 14000rmb a month job in shanghai probably . . .

. . . can I find a job @ 10,000 rmb + with 1-year experience in hebei?

I have looked at many different posts on this forum and find many conflicting reports. Could you shed some light? What's the range of salaries in hebei w/ 1-year experience.


Thanks.

np in cleveland, ohio usa
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7969



Joined: 26 Mar 2003
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Location: Coastal Guangdong

PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

if saving money was one of my top priorities, i wouldnt come to china.

at any rate, if you do come here, do yourself a favour and make sure you have a healthy bank account that enables you to get out of your job and into a new one or back home if things go sour, as they occasionally do.

if youre interested in a decent job i may have an idea for you. send me a message.
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smuvkat25



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 1:29 pm    Post subject: Thanks Anda! Reply with quote

Anda,

Thanks for the information. I know that I have posed questions that have been asked a hundred times, but as you know - it is good to do your homework. When you don't have anyone on the inside, it makes life a little more challenging.

I take it that is your email? I'll shoot a message over to you so we can start talking more in depth.

Thanks a million.

Nick
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7969



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

say hi to lily for me Very Happy
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kungfucowboy83



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 3:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I have looked at many different posts on this forum and find many conflicting reports. Could you shed some light? What's the range of salaries in hebei w/ 1-year experience.


around 3500rmb to 14000rmb(this was the highest i have seen offered)

you will often have good luck seaching for school home pages online and just sending your resume to every school you can find an e-mail for. if you or a friend can read chinese you will have even better luck at this. lots of schools don't use eslcafe or other websites eventhough they need teachers. you can often find jobs that aren't listed anywhere by doing your own research.

my first job in qingdao was found by blanket e-mailing my resume to all the schools i could find. i found a pretty decent job that wasn't advertised that way. it takes more reasearch than just looking at the classifieds but it will usually pay off
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