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askiptochina · Joined: 26 Feb 2010 Posts: 488 Location: Beijing

I am curious how this is supposed to work. I understand there is supposed to be a book which looks like a passport and has some vital work information about me. I already have 2 visas stamped in my passport, and I got like 3 residence permits, but apparently there is something else needed.

I have been told several stories.

1) I don't need it, I need to get a new one with the new school.
2) I need it and the Entry/Exit Bureau Office will update it with the new school.
3) I need it and the Entry/Exit Bureau Office will cancel it, and then issue me a new one.
4) I don't need it. The old school needs it. They will give it to their Entry/Exit Bureau Office. Then, the Entry/Exit Bureau Office there will cancel it. After that, my new school will go to their Entry/Exit Bureau Office and get a new one.

I was in Shenyang, now I am in Beijing. What exactly is the procedure? Any of the 4 apply or is there a 5th?

Lobster · Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 4:59 pm Post subject:

It sounds like you're referring to your Foreign Expert's Certificate (FEC). For your new job, you will return the FEC (make a copy first), get your release letter and recommendation from your old employer.

The FEC is not transferable to another province, so you'll need a new one. Your new employer will get it for you. They will also arrange a new resident's permit when the old one is about to expire. So basically it's #4 on your list, except the Entry/Exit Bureau isn't the issuing authority for FECs.

RED

askiptochina · Joined: 26 Feb 2010 Posts: 488 Location: Beijing

chengdude · Joined: 13 Jun 2004 Posts: 294

Did you ever see or have possession of a "book which looks like a passport"? Dark blue? Your mug shot on the first page? If no, then your previous employer probably never gave it to you and, thus, no worries. Your new employer doesn't need it. They should, however, be asking you for a Letter of Release indicating all is well with your previous employer.

Depending where you are in China, the Foreign Experts Certificate is issued by the provincial Foreign Experts Bureau or Foreign Affairs Office. Your new employer should take care of everything; typically they ask you for a couple of photos and that's it.

wangdaning · Joined: 22 Jan 2008 Posts: 3154

No real vital information in the FEC, just your employers name, your occupation, and your current (previous I think for you) address.

Lobster · Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 7:26 am Post subject:

OK, forget the Entry/Exit Bureau here. That department deals with visas and residents' permits. Your new employer will deal with that too when your current RP is about to expire.

The issue is whether you have your FEC from the Shenyang school and a letter of release. If they never gave you your FEC, either they just held it or never obtained it. Either way, let your new employer know what you have for documentation. They will take your documents to the Education Bureau.

Be sure to register your address with the police right away, or you will have trouble getting a new FEC or RP.

RED

askiptochina · Joined: 26 Feb 2010 Posts: 488 Location: Beijing

Thanks for the feedback.

So far:

1. They already updated my address when I moved here in April. That part is done.

2. The whole point of making this thread is that my school in Beijing already went to get my new visa. That is when they said they needed the book. The school in Shenyang already gave them a letter of release but it seems like that is not good enough.

Perhaps the letter of release was not "official" looking. Is there another letter of release form they could use?

Lobster · Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 2:01 pm Post subject:

choudoufu · Joined: 25 May 2010 Posts: 3325 Location: Mao-berry, PRC

askiptochina · Joined: 26 Feb 2010 Posts: 488 Location: Beijing

Lobster · Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 3:45 pm Post subject:

Whaaaa. I thought ShenYang gave you a release form!

OK, you want to help your school out, look at my previous post. I understand you're stuck in the middle.

You are confusing us with talk of a new "visa". That why Chou is asking you what you currently have in your passport. You use a visa to enter China, then change it to a Resident's Permit (RP) within 30 days. If you don't leave the country, you renew that.

We understand that ShenYang didn't give you your Foreign Expert's Certificate (the little book) or a copy. It doesn't matter. If you're in a different province now, it's no longer valid anyway. You would have been expected to return it to the ShenYang school anyway, so no way the old one is required. However, a new one is!

Tell your FAO they need all the documents I listed, and the E/E Bureau may request more.

The point is still that your school's doing things backwards; in the wrong order.

1. Get the new FEC from the Education Bureau
2. Renew the RP at the Entry/Exit Bureau

We clear so far?

RED

askiptochina · Joined: 26 Feb 2010 Posts: 488 Location: Beijing

choudoufu · Joined: 25 May 2010 Posts: 3325 Location: Mao-berry, PRC

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askiptochina · Joined: 26 Feb 2010 Posts: 488 Location: Beijing

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