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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 1:34 pm    Post subject: Help- Looking for a good curriculum Reply with quote

I'm looking for a good curicculum for young learners. Something with songs, games, worksheets, etc. A set curriculum that can be modified if needed.

Yes I realise that it's nice to make all your own materials. BUt let's also face it, I'm not a course book writer and I don't want to re invent the wheel. There MUST be SOME good stuff out there.

I need a basic structure that I can add to if needed, but also something that is complete and ready to be taught. Something organised by themes, so I can pull a worksheet here, take a song there and have it be connected. Structure and quality are my main concern.

Any ideas?
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Justin Trullinger



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How young? If they're really young (4 to Cool, I like "Playway," though it's rather pricey, and "Animal Crackers," which is more accesible.

For slightly older kids (8 to 12, literate in first language) I like Domino.

All these are book series; none is a complete curriculum in and of itself, but they're well put together, and the series as a whole can be a sound basis for an ENglish course.

THere's more info out there, though- let us know who, how old, how many, and under what circumstances. (How many hours per week, do they have other English classes, any other subjects which are taught, or partially taught, in English?)


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It would be seven kids per class, ages 3 to 5. 3 and 4 year olds and then 4 and 5 year old, depnding on ability.

Two hours of English preschool a day.

I'mthinking about starting a preschool.

They're Peruvian
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 2:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

naturegirl321 wrote:
It would be seven kids per class, ages 3 to 5. 3 and 4 year olds and then 4 and 5 year old, depnding on ability.

Two hours of English preschool a day.

I'mthinking about starting a preschool.

They're Peruvian

Goooood luck!
When they are 5, and can sit (more or less) still for 20 minutes at a stretch, Oxford's "Get Ready" course will work. It has a pupils' book, activity book and beginning handwriting (print/block letters). But 5 is the minimum age for this stuff!
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I taught kindergarten before and had kids that were only 1.5 years old. The key is switching activities. Obviously I'm not going to plop a book in front of them and expect them to do grammar exercises. I'm going to go for the immersion method, something like a day care, but in English. Stories, puzzles, blocks, games, science experiments. It could work.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

naturegirl321 wrote:
I taught kindergarten before and had kids that were only 1.5 years old. The key is switching activities. Obviously I'm not going to plop a book in front of them and expect them to do grammar exercises. I'm going to go for the immersion method, something like a day care, but in English. Stories, puzzles, blocks, games, science experiments. It could work.

I suggest The Times crossword and experimental atom splitting for 3 year olds. You can't beat Polonium sushi and 4 eyed fish for a parents' evening display.

On a serious note, go for "Hippo and friends" CUP, mostly songs and many toys and games that go with it. Great series. Your local CUP rep should supply you with most stuff free.

Alternatively, go back to your lessons on gender reassignment surgery.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks, I'll check out HIppo and Friends.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.cambridge.org/elt/elt_projectpage.asp?id=2502141

Claire Selby is really nice and knows her stuff.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Playway, definitely. Also look at a book of picture stories by Herbert Puchta.

Justin
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you mean Join Us by Hubert Putcha�
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope- Join In would be far too high a level, developmentally, for the age group you're talking about. It also assumes literacy, which I'm going to guess that your students won't have much of.

I'd base the course around Playway, but take it slow. (One book per year! Takes time at this age.) The book I was referring to is called something like "Picture stories for young learners," or something. I lent it to a teacher so don't have it to hand. But it's a series of stories, linking simple phrases to pictures, to sounds, to TPR actions, and eventually to independent telling. It's cool.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What do you think about these curriculums?

www.kidsparkz.com
www.jaynesjourney.com
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

naturegirl321 wrote:
What do you think about these curriculums?

www.kidsparkz.com
www.jaynesjourney.com

I think they're shi'ite.

1. No student books to keep and update. Photocopies are annoying enough for proficiency level students (Although, unavoidable most of the time). It looks as though you will have to do about 15 copies per student, per lesson. Students will lose/destroy them, parents will moan and the person who pays for the photocopier will want to hit you in the mouth with a hammer.

2. You don't actually know what you are getting for the money, you can be sure the free download 'examples' are the best in the series.

3. How will the school sell an internet download to discerning parents, it's akin to the school doing things on the cheap.

It smacks of lazy teacher trying to find a 'quick fix' solution, get a proper set of materials from a publisher.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

phantombedwetter wrote:
naturegirl321 wrote:
What do you think about these curriculums?

www.kidsparkz.com
www.jaynesjourney.com

I think they're shi'ite.

1. No student books to keep and update. Photocopies are annoying enough for proficiency level students (Although, unavoidable most of the time). It looks as though you will have to do about 15 copies per student, per lesson. Students will lose/destroy them, parents will moan and the person who pays for the photocopier will want to hit you in the mouth with a hammer..


Maybe things are different where you live and teach. Here in Peru, schools are moving against books and towards photocopies. IN fact at mine, in English, we don't have books and have to invent all our own material.

Or students have to copy from the board into their copybooks. And those have to be perfect and they all have to write with the same handwriting. I'mm not too keen on that though.

Also, a folder could keep things together.

And keep in mind, I'm aiming at ages 3 to 5,. They do things slowly, I doubt I could get through 15 copies a lesson.

BUT, you have made me think and this weekend I'll go to the bookshop and check out Playway and Hippo and Friends
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For preschool I like the Richmond books. Particularly the I Can series There are a whole bunch of different componants, certainly enough for two hours a day. Contact your local Richmond rep and I'm sure they'd send you some samples.
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