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Nephi
Joined: 20 Jun 2008 Posts: 6
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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 7:04 am Post subject: Overwhelmed by the options |
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Hello everyone. I'm hoping to teach in Japan soon, but at the moment I feel overwhelmed by all the options out there. About me:
My name is Laura, I'm 25, and a US citizen. I have a B of A in International Relations, a minor in Asian studies, and I took all available Japanese classes in college. For fun, I taught English in Taiwan from March 2007 - February 2008, so I have a year of experience teaching ages 4-16. I've been to Japan twice, first for two months as an ambassador from my college town, and then again this past Christmas to visit friends. My life goal is to be fluent in Japanese (I want to be a translator).
So, on the plus side: I have teaching experience, know a fair bit of the native language, and don't expect any extreme culture shock after my past travels.
Possible negative points: I'm really hoping to be placed in one of the major cities (Yokohama, Kobe, etc.)... the Tokyo area would be especially nice as I already have a circle of friends there. Also, I have an industrial piercing in my right ear (the only unconservative element of my appearance).
I've been browsing groups like AEON and GEOS, and I've lost all direction. I'd appreciate any tips on where I should look for something that really suits me. I admit, I feel like I'm a perfect candidate for a teaching position in Japan, so maybe I'm having difficulty because I'm hoping for something special...
PS: If anyone has questions about Taiwan, I'd be happy to help... pm me. |
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AgentMulderUK

Joined: 22 Sep 2003 Posts: 360 Location: Concrete jungle (Tokyo)
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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 8:50 am Post subject: |
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What kind of classes do you want to teach?
Kids,Adults,Business,University ?
Also, the piercing thing is utterly irrelevant. |
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Apsara
Joined: 20 Sep 2005 Posts: 2142 Location: Tokyo, Japan
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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 9:18 am Post subject: |
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Actually if it is a large gauge, which I'm thinking is what industrial piercing means, then it could well be relevant- depends on who is interviewing you. |
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iverin
Joined: 26 Jun 2008 Posts: 111 Location: Ontario
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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 2:20 pm Post subject: |
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The piercings do become relevant depending on who hires you. I have 3 lobe piercings in each ear as well as two cartilage piercings in my left ear. When I'm teaching with Aeon I'll have to remove all but one lobe piercing in each ear. Aeon also does not allow any piercings for men, or visible tattoos at all in front of students.
With Aeon you can make requests about where you wanted to go. I asked for a smaller city as far north as they had available so as to not be ridiculously hot in the summer. I'm going to Fukushima which has about 300,000 people and it's about 1.5 hours from Tokyo by bullet train. So Aeon tries really hard to place you where you want to go. |
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markle
Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Posts: 1316 Location: Out of Japan
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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 2:31 pm Post subject: |
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look at it this way.
Whatever option you take, even if it turns in to a disaster, it is going to be an experience. Since you are obviously looking at this as a long-term thing, take that experience and use it to your advantage later on. You're young you can do it. Good Luck. |
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Nephi
Joined: 20 Jun 2008 Posts: 6
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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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@ Markle
See, that's what I did last time, flying to Taiwan suddenly, knowing no Mandarin, and probably more trusting of the small group that hired me that is usually wise. I just relaxed and enjoyed the experience. Now, having a year of teaching under my belt, I am picky.
@AgentMulderUK
I love kids, but teaching the very youngest ones (4-7ish) drives me crazy enough some days that I'd like to avoid it... I do great with Jr. High age kids... we click as if I never grew up. The groups I've browsed seem to only offer classes to students elementary-high school. I'd love to try teaching adults in a business or university setting, but do they hire someone like me, with no teaching degree? Is a year of experience and a history of interest in Japanese enough?
An industrial is a fine barbell (14g I think) that connects two piercings in the ear cartilage. I got it just after returning from Taiwan, so I'll be able to remove it by the time I'm teaching in Japan, but I'm not sure I'd be ready to remove it for an interview in the next month, maybe two.
Thanks much for your responses guys... helps me organize my thoughts, having you all to talk to. |
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southofreality
Joined: 12 Feb 2007 Posts: 579 Location: Tokyo
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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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iverin wrote: |
With Aeon you can make requests about where you wanted to go. I asked for a smaller city as far north as they had available so as to not be ridiculously hot in the summer. I'm going to Fukushima... |
Not to burst your bubble, but Fukushima does get ridiculously hot in the summer. The summers there are just a bit shorter than in Tokyo. |
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iverin
Joined: 26 Jun 2008 Posts: 111 Location: Ontario
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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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southofreality wrote: |
Not to burst your bubble, but Fukushima does get ridiculously hot in the summer. The summers there are just a bit shorter than in Tokyo. |
I know, but it was a choice of Fukushima or Nagoya. I'd much rather Fukushima. I know it's not like I got into Sappora or something (which was one of my first prefs) but it's north of Tokyo which was what I wanted.
Heck, where I live in Ontario it can get to 35 degrees without humidity. Last summer it got to 40 and was 47 with humidity and I didn't have A/C. I can handle the heat, I just wanted somewhere with more distinct and noticable season changes
Nephi wrote: |
An industrial is a fine barbell (14g I think) that connects two piercings in the ear cartilage. I got it just after returning from Taiwan, so I'll be able to remove it by the time I'm teaching in Japan, but I'm not sure I'd be ready to remove it for an interview in the next month, maybe two.
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I had all of my piercings in for my interviews (both group and person). I've had the one cartilage for 6 years so I don't worry about it but I only got the other one in October (and I interviewed in March) so I left it in. I was told that the earrings weren't a problem as long as you don't wear them to work.
I have a tattoo on my ankle as well and was just told to hide it as often as possible
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Tiger Beer

Joined: 08 Feb 2003 Posts: 778 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 4:48 pm Post subject: Re: Overwhelmed by the options |
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Nephi wrote: |
I've been browsing groups like AEON and GEOS, and I've lost all direction. I'd appreciate any tips on where I should look for something that really suits me. I admit, I feel like I'm a perfect candidate for a teaching position in Japan, so maybe I'm having difficulty because I'm hoping for something special... |
Why not just stay with one of your friends, and interview personally with the many schools right in Tokyo? Check out the job board at Gaijinpot.com. |
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Nephi
Joined: 20 Jun 2008 Posts: 6
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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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@Tiger Beer
Well, if I did that, how soon would I be able to start working? I thought one of the big advantages of groups like AEON was the work visa that is arranged before you arrive. If you're suggesting I could start working within two weeks of landing(while the visa is being processed I guess?), then you've just made me giddy.  |
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markle
Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Posts: 1316 Location: Out of Japan
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Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 12:03 am Post subject: |
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Nephi wrote: |
Now, having a year of teaching under my belt, I am picky. |
With 5-6 years under your belt you can get picky. By no means rush out and take the first offer, but the market is pretty saturated so 'the perfect job' is going to be hard to come by.
You might find something in two weeks, you might not. When was the last time you made a good decision when you let the beer do the talking? |
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Nephi
Joined: 20 Jun 2008 Posts: 6
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Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 12:40 am Post subject: |
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@Markle
Haha, brilliant point. But still, Beer helped me realize a question I'd never formed. I have no idea what it would take to get hired and arrange the visa after arrival. That's similar to how I did it in Taiwan, but everything was taken care of by the school... and I was expecting things to be more difficult this time.
And of course I don't expect a 'perfect job' in that quite that way... It just seems that applying for AEON, GEOS, etc. means likely giving in on one of my priorities (location, saturdays off, etc.) when I would regrettably not know what else might have been available outside of groups like it. |
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parrothead

Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 342 Location: Japan
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Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 1:25 am Post subject: |
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Well, if I did that, how soon would I be able to start working? I thought one of the big advantages of groups like AEON was the work visa that is arranged before you arrive. If you're suggesting I could start working within two weeks of landing(while the visa is being processed I guess?), then you've just made me giddy. |
I believe you need your working holiday visa in your passport before you arrive in Japan.
From the Embassy of Japan in Canada:
Procedure and Requirements for the Working Holiday Visa:
Applicants are required to submit the following:
Valid Canadian passport;
Completed application form;
Photos (passport size, approx. 45mm x 45mm)
Personal history/resume/curriculum vitae;
Detailed itinerary of stay in Japan proposed by applicant;
Letter explaining your reasons for a Working-Holiday visa;
Note from physician stating that you are in good health (proof of a recent medical examiniation);
Actual return airline ticket;
Minimum $2,500 in Travellers Cheques ($3,500 for married couple)
If you satisfy the requirements, you will be informed that your visa will be processed.
Application for the Working-Holiday visa must be made at the diplomatic or one of the consular missions of the Government of Japan in Canada (none will be accepted outside of Canada). Applicants will be interviewed, when necessary, by the representatives of such missions to determine their eligibility.
Processing time of visa application:
Minimum of 3 working days to one week
Other Information:
It is recommended that insurance coverage be arranged before leaving Canada as under the conditions of employment for the Working-Holiday Visas. The period of employment is usually not long enough to qualify for coverage undertaken by the employers or companies.
Applicants must enter Japan within twelve months after the date of issue of the visa; the visa is valid for twelve months.
A period of stay of up to six months will be initially granted, at the port of entry. This may be extended up to another six months by the Immigration Authorities in Japan.
Working-Holiday visas are single entry. Therefore, if the Working-Holiday participant has to leave Japan for any reason and wishes to return, it is essential that the person obtain a re-entry permit from the Immigration Authorities before leaving Japan.
Within 90 days of arrival in Japan, Working-Holiday visitors must apply for alien registration at a nearby Local Government Office where they are staying.
You should ask for a statement of earnings in English while in Japan and call Revenue Canada for the appropriate information when you return to Canada. |
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AgentMulderUK

Joined: 22 Sep 2003 Posts: 360 Location: Concrete jungle (Tokyo)
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Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 2:33 am Post subject: |
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[quote="Nephi]
I love kids, but teaching the very youngest ones (4-7ish) drives me crazy enough some days that I'd like to avoid it... I do great with Jr. High age kids... we click as if I never grew up. The groups I've browsed seem to only offer classes to students elementary-high school. I'd love to try teaching adults in a business or university setting, but do they hire someone like me, with no teaching degree? Is a year of experience and a history of interest in Japanese enough?
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In that case why don't you think about an ALT position in a Jnr High School over here. Lots of that kind of work about. Lots of dispatch companies will get you a visa too. You just need a degree,nothing else.
Workload is not too heavy and the hours are more sociable then than the conversation schools.
Or as parrothead said, get a Working Holiday thing if you can.
Don't listen to the doombringers on this forum - there are far too many.
On a positive note, You are young and female, so you've already earned lots of bonus points over here. |
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GIR

Joined: 12 Apr 2007 Posts: 64
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Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 5:20 am Post subject: |
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AgentMulderUK wrote: |
Or as parrothead said, get a Working Holiday thing if you can. |
Nephi said in her original post that she's a US citizen, so she's not eligible for a working holiday visa.
You could still show up on a tourist visa and try to get hired. You'll be limited in who will hire you, as some schools won't sponsor your visa. But I'm pretty sure your choices will be more diverse than the 5-6 companies who hire from abroad. Basically it comes down to options vs. security, I think. |
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