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Sam Adams



Joined: 26 May 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 5:02 am    Post subject: Bad drivers Reply with quote

The other day I was riding my bike, when I came upon a major intersection. Being that the pedestrain light was green, I continued across the road until I was rudely interrupted by the front of a mini van. The second before the car hit me, the moment when you know you are screwed and there is nothing you could do, all I could think of was F#*! me! After dragging myself to the curb, I wasn't at all surprised at what just happened. For the past 8 months, I have watched cars run red lights, speed around corners, and not stop for pedestrians. All while the police do nothing. I actually once saw a cop on a police corner, and I thought he was there to nab red light runners. So I waited for the next light to turn red. Of course like 5 cars went through.(not yellow turning red, but red). He did nothing.
I love Japan. I think it is a very safe place with wonderful people. But I won't hesitate to say that I think the police are way too lenient on enforcing traffic laws and safety. On top of that, most drivers here take traffic safety as an afterthought. The guy who hit me was very nice and full of apologies, as were the police. Yet if he had only looked while turning, I wouldn't have been hit. Am I alone in thinking this way? Sorry for ranting, but I was freaking hit by a car.
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Celeste



Joined: 17 Jan 2003
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Location: Fukuoka City, Japan

PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 6:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are not alone. Two of my friends have been hit by cars while cycling in the last year. (And I don't have that many friends here!) Drivers tend to be very distracted and have a lot of low speed accidents. I hope you feel better soon.
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easyasabc



Joined: 13 Jul 2003
Posts: 179
Location: Japan

PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 6:41 am    Post subject: Re: Bad drivers Reply with quote

Sam Adams wrote:
I love Japan. I think it is a very safe place with wonderful people. But I won't hesitate to say that I think the police are way too lenient on enforcing traffic laws and safety. On top of that, most drivers here take traffic safety as an afterthought.


I completely agree with you! If they gave it more thought they'd all have seatbelts on their kids.

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The guy who hit me was very nice and full of apologies, as were the police.

That makes a nice change from the guy who hit me. Mine was a hit and run when a guy driving way too fast tried to cut across the sidewalk in front of me and hit me. I was quite badly injured - face smashed into the road, 4 teeth broken, 1 tooth knocked right out, lots of other cuts and bruises and a broken elbow. OUCH! The police in my city listened to the whole story the next day through a translator and then just glared at me and said they didn't believe that anyone hit me.

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Am I alone in thinking this way? Sorry for ranting, but I was freaking hit by a car.

No you aren't alone and I think your opinion is perfectly reasonable. I hope you weren't too badly injured and are recovering OK. I like Japan too but I have to say that cycling can be dangerous here. I couldn't ride for a couple of months after my accident but whenI did I was pretty scared and 3 years later I still ride very cautiously all the time now.
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Sam Adams



Joined: 26 May 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 6:48 am    Post subject: bad drivers Reply with quote

Thanks for replying Celeste and Easy. I have to say I came out lucky. My bike took most of the impact. Just a few bruises. Sorry to hear about your accident easyasabc, that sounds terrible. Like you, I am now so cautious.
Take care.
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foster



Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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Location: Honkers, SARS

PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 7:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sam, accidents happen more than you know. I too was hit by a car. My bike was totalled,but the young man, scared to death that he hit a gaijin, bought me a new bike and gave me abox of the special, individually wrapped peaches. Laughing

Be careful~!!
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BenJ



Joined: 11 May 2003
Posts: 209
Location: Nagoya

PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you guys are scary! I was starting to think this place was super safe - everybody walks across without roads knowing (so far) that the car will stop... could never do this or expect that where I come from, so I thought Japan must be very safe...
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bshabu



Joined: 03 Apr 2003
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Location: Kumagaya

PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I, having experience both on bicycle and in car, can tell some accidents and near accidents.

I have had more than one near misses on a bike.

On the other hand, while driving, I turned a corner and proceeded to accel and some flew out from a blind corner on a bike. If I had my eyes off the road a head of me, he would have been seriously injured of killed. He never even looked. I am sure you are all cautious on your bike. However, kids(JHS and HS) are very reckless on their bikes.

A lot of people can't walk and chew gum at the same time. I don't think they can multi-task behind the wheel. Keitai, lipstick, eating, reading, playing the violin(actually happened) are too much for most.
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shmooj



Joined: 11 Sep 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FWIW, one of my student's husbands was hit by a driver on his moped. Put him in hospital for two months. So, at least there is no discrimination against foreigners...
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Celeste



Joined: 17 Jan 2003
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Location: Fukuoka City, Japan

PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well- I apparently spoke too soon. One of my friends was hit by a car (while on his bicycle) yesterday. Broken arm. That makes it 3 in a year.
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Sherri



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
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Location: The Big Island, Hawaii

PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am the only mom in my neighbourhood to use a child seat on my bike with a high back (to protect the child's neck), 3-point harness and with my child wearing a helmet. I am also the only one who actually stops at intersections--not just relying on the mirrors. I cringe when I see the moms, one kid in front, one kid on the back (no restraints used) sometimes even one on the mom in a baby carrier, cycling carelessly around corners or through intersections without so much as a glance of what is coming behind or in front of them.

Also dangerous, the cyclists who ride without lights at night--and are usually wearing dark clothes, people who do this AND ride the wrong way down oneway streets or ride against the traffic on busy roads.

I cycle almost everyday here and I am cautious everytime I get on the bike--and yes, I have been hit by a car. I was cycling on the pavement at the time (pre-child days) and a car pulled out from a driveway (hidden by a wall) blind onto the pavement.

I am too scared to drive here, even though we have a car, with all these knuckleheads on the road--pedestrians, cyclists and cars.
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homersimpson



Joined: 14 Feb 2003
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Location: Kagoshima

PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't know where most of the posters on this topic are living, but the driving habits are even worse in the smaller towns. I have been nearly hit by speeding and unattentive motorists at least 20 times since moving to the "peaceful" countryside. It's pretty darn scary. You need to develop an extra set of eyes in the back of your head. Speaking of which, there's a reason junior high school kids have to wear helmets when riding their bikes to school. And, I suspect, the reason elementary students can't ride a bike to school has little to do with lack of parking space at school or their proximity, and more to do with unsafe driving practices.
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shmooj



Joined: 11 Sep 2003
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Location: Seoul, ROK

PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2003 1:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd also be interested to know how widely "lived" all of you are. Japan is not entirely safe for cyclists or drivers etc but it is one of the best countries for driving that I've ever lived in. When you consider that, the complaints about Japan in particular pale in comparison. I remember once in Jordan, a VW beetle did a u-turn at an intersection while we were waiting at a red light. The person in the passenger seat was holding a baby on their lap. It went straight out the window and landed on the road. Thankfully, babies in the Middle East are usually "wrapped in swaddling clothes" so thick you can hardly see them. I can only hope, to this day that prevented any injury. The driver screeched to a halt, the passenger (a man) got out, grabbed the child, got back in the car and they drove off.

Our entire family was left gobsmacked.

So, a bit of perspective can be healthy every now and then...
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Sherri



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
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Location: The Big Island, Hawaii

PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2003 1:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The bus ride to Srinagar, Kashmir from the lowlands in India is in the top 5 of "most harrowing traffic experience" list. Something about watching the bald tires scraping the edge of a Himalayan cliff--as the driver busily changes cassette tapes and chats to his friend. Occasionally seeing a "dead" bus at the bottom of a ravine didn't help either.

I know there are worse places than Japan, but it doesn't stop me from being scared and amazed at the bad driving here and gormless road sense of pedestrians and cyclists.
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rockwolf



Joined: 02 Jul 2003
Posts: 19
Location: Takamatsu, Shikoku

PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2003 11:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Almost been hit more times than I can count, in just 2 months here.

But I luckily have good reflexes and my bike has good brakes.

When I lived in Akita several years ago as a college student, the drivers were pretty good. never saw an accident, although I helped one old lady get her car out of a snowbank. Her front tire was also lodged over a curb, and she was pretty dumbstruck when I just lifted the front over it. It was a really tiny car, and I used to do powerlifting.

Personally, I love biking in Japan, especially out in the countryside, the scenery is beautiful year round, even on gloomy days. I'm still waiting to save up the money to have my mountain bike shipped over from the states. I know I could just buy a really great mountain bike here for the cost of shipping my mountain bike, but there's a lot of sentimental value attached, and I miss that bike.

Hmm... I'm babbling now.

So, yeah, *knocks on wood* I've been pretty lucky so far. Maybe it has something to do with the old 'travel' omomori I keep lashed to my backpack. I'm not taking that badboy off though, it's been lucky enough for me.
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bshabu



Joined: 03 Apr 2003
Posts: 200
Location: Kumagaya

PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2003 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah. I am a big fan of the omomorri too. I had one for my car back home. My friend took it down from the back door window because it was hitting her in the head when I was driving. They next day my brother took my car and hit a deer. The car just had a broken bumper and dent in the hood. So I drove it up to get it repaired and I hit a deer. The deer broke the side view window and dented the door pretty bad. Then I relized that the omomorri was in the compartment between the seats. Since then I never drive without one.
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