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Phil_K



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 3:47 pm    Post subject: Good student Reply with quote

I'm sure you've all been asked many times by keen students, "What do you recommend, so that I can improve?"

I have a few ideas but would like to hear other peoples ideas. I'll kick off with a few.

1) Controversial maybe, but I think a good knowledge of your own grammar helps things along faster.

2) Consider your class and teacher as extras, not as the main point. In other words, take the University approach to learning, rather than the primary school.

3) �Tener ganas!
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TheLongWayHome



Joined: 07 Jun 2006
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Location: San Luis Piojosi

PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 4:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Good student Reply with quote

Phil_K wrote:
1) Controversial maybe, but I think a good knowledge of your own grammar helps things along faster.

It would be top of my list too, though unfortunately seen as irrelevant by most Mexicans.

Cover up the subtitles when you watch TV in English, force your ears to work.

Look into learning styles, find out how you learn best.

Do a little each day instead of 'binge studying' or cramming.

Don't arrogantly assume that because you managed to turn up/paid a lot of money, you will learn English.

Stop saying, 'What happen with you (life)?'
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CharlieBaloney



Joined: 17 Nov 2007
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Location: Ciudad de Mexico

PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my school the term exams this year come from the CPE, the CAE, etc. On the first day of school I told this to all my students: they don't test, necessarily, what we covered in class, they're challenging for native speakers, etc. What I recommended was English immersion: watching movies and TV in English, using it in as much conversation with family and friends as possible, reading books in English, etc.

For the most part, as I expected, it wasn't taken seriously. But we just had the term exam, and I hope at least a couple will wake up and think about it.

For the most advanced students, my thought is: conversation, conversation, conversation, and reading English magazines, newspapers, and books. But I've only been doing this for a year, so I'm relatively inexperienced.
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TheLongWayHome



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A few more I just stumbled across:

http://www.sil.org/lingualinks/languagelearning/LanguageLearningPrinciples/Contents.htm
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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 4:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
1) Controversial maybe, but I think a good knowledge of your own grammar helps things along faster.

2) Consider your class and teacher as extras, not as the main point. In other words, take the University approach to learning, rather than the primary school.

3) �Tener ganas!


In other words, practice makes perfect. There's really no substitute for that age-old piece of wisdom.
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ontoit



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My experience is that students who ask this question never become fluent.
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