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Ngrish
Joined: 10 Jun 2009 Posts: 4
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Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 10:33 am Post subject: Japan Newbie |
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Hello, I have recently graduated from my Bachelor of Social Science at an Australian university and I am planning on starting a career in TESOL. I want to begin my career in Japan and I've applied to all the major recruiters and I am in the initial stages of the interview process.
At this stage my plan is to apply for jobs from outside Japan until the end of the year while I complete my CELTA and attain Japanese level 1 language proficiency.
At the end of the year if I haven't secured employment I plan to go to Japan on a working holiday visa and search for work in the major cities.
Is there any advice anybody can give me on how I may find a job while in Japan? When is the best time of year to arrive in Tokyo looking for a job? What sort of difficulties can I expect to encounter having never lived in a foreign country and having limited Japanese? What would be my best plan to secure employment while in Japan?
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 12:21 pm Post subject: Re: Japan Newbie |
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Ngrish wrote: |
Is there any advice anybody can give me on how I may find a job while in Japan? When is the best time of year to arrive in Tokyo looking for a job? What sort of difficulties can I expect to encounter having never lived in a foreign country and having limited Japanese? What would be my best plan to secure employment while in Japan?
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1. You don't need anywhere near level JLPT1 proficiency to teach here. Did you have some other reason for setting such high sights?
2. You're only targeting the major cities? Why? Of course, they offer the larger number of opportunities, but they also harbor the most competition.
Best time of year to job hunt for a newbie is usually February / March, for the April first start dates. ALTs may get hired earlier than that, but the school year begins in April.
Difficulties? You are new, so you face competition from experienced people, most of all. Having never lived abroad may or may not work against you, depending on what employers want, but with a flooded market, who can say?
Best plan while you are in Japan? Contact employers before you arrive. Don't cold call. Let people know when you are coming, then hope for an interview very soon after you land. Otherwise, as soon as you touch ground, make contact and pursue openings vigorously. That working holiday visa may be your best shot, as you can start work immediately and keep the WHV for 18 months, plus you can take on PT work where other newbies ineligible for WHV cannot.
Good luck. |
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Ngrish
Joined: 10 Jun 2009 Posts: 4
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Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 2:44 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for your reply Glenski, I have noticed your contribution to this forum and it doesn't go without appreciation.
I have some other questions about living in Japan.
Firstly, I am prepared to stick in Japan for the long haul to find a job assuming one doesn't present it's self immediately. By the time I plan to arrive in Japan I should have at least 500,000 yen and I am entrusted with 20,000 yen a week until I can find work. How long will I be able to survive with these sorts of funds in a city like Tokyo?
Secondly, in terms of accommodation where should I seek to begin with? I was thinking back packer hostels would be the best choice because I am likely to find plenty of English speaking people to socialise with and make connections. But is there a better choice?
Thirdly, how will I get around Tokyo for job interviews and such? I have no idea how to read a map in Japanese and I have heard taxis are very expensive. Is public transport a realistic option?
I'm really hoping to get a job with one of the major recruiters because the entire process seems painless in comparison but I am adamant that I am going to find a job in Japan somehow, but at this stage I am filled with doubts and questions. |
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little_kitty
Joined: 22 Apr 2009 Posts: 6 Location: United States
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Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 4:45 pm Post subject: |
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As far as transportation goes, you can cross it off your list of things to worry about. Japan has (more than likely) the best public transportation system on the planet.
The trains are fast, inexpensive, and prompt. Buses are the same. The maps within the train stations almost always have English written underneath the station name and so do handheld maps you can acquire inside. Taxis are not necessary.
I'm back in the States now and the two things I miss the most are okonomiyaki and trains. |
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seklarwia
Joined: 20 Jan 2009 Posts: 1546 Location: Monkey onsen, Nagano
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Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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Ngrish,
You say you want to pursue JLPT 1 this year then ask about difficulties with regards to only speaking limited Japanese and not being able to use transport in Tokyo. Can I assume that you meant you wanted to obtain the lowest level JLPT (i.e. JLPT 4)?
Don't worry about the Tokyo trains. It can be slighlty difficult finding an entrance into the stations, or finding the station at all in places like Akihabara, but once you are in, navigating the network is quite easy. On the platforms there are signs in both Japanese and English telling you the station, the station before and the one after so you can at least make sure you are heading in the right direction. On the trains the announcements are done in Japanese then in English. And if you can't hear the announcement properly, just look to one of the screens over the doors for the next stop, because... you guessed it... it is also done in both Japanese and English.
Make sure you pick up a train map with the stations in English and Japanese though. Many of the stations I went to had fare maps over the ticket machines that only had the station names in kanji. At least if you are too scared to ask a passerby how much you need to pay, you can resort to playing match the kanji with your handheld map and the fare map. |
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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Ngrish wrote: |
Firstly, I am prepared to stick in Japan for the long haul to find a job assuming one doesn't present it's self immediately. By the time I plan to arrive in Japan I should have at least 500,000 yen and I am entrusted with 20,000 yen a week until I can find work. How long will I be able to survive with these sorts of funds in a city like Tokyo? |
A lot depends on what kind of rent you are paying. An average figure would be 50,000-70,000 yen/month. If it's with LeoPalace21, you'll also pay utilities (another 15,000 or so), but if it's in a guest house, there are no utilities (or phone costs). I would use a rough estimate, not knowing where you will stay, of the following:
50,000 -70,000 rent
10,000 utilities
5000-8000 phone (cell phone or land line, but there will be installation costs)
40,000 food
20,000 for transportation until you get a job
plus some other sundry expenses (dry cleaning, hair care, insurance, etc.)
500,000 yen will last about 3 months, IMO.
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Secondly, in terms of accommodation where should I seek to begin with? I was thinking back packer hostels would be the best choice because I am likely to find plenty of English speaking people to socialise with and make connections. But is there a better choice? |
I touched on this above. LeoPalace21 provides furnished apartments that do not require guarantors, and you can pay short-term, but you must pay it all in advance. Guest houses may or may not have a 25,000 deposit (returnable). They will also have other people there that you might rely on for news. I think a hostel would eventually run too much.
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Thirdly, how will I get around Tokyo for job interviews and such? I have no idea how to read a map in Japanese and I have heard taxis are very expensive. Is public transport a realistic option? |
It's bilingual, so you won't have a language problem. It's also a rat's nest, but at least the subways and trains are color-coded, so after a week or so, you'll never notice it. One tip: scout out the interview location a day in advance because buildings are not numbered consecutively here.
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I'm really hoping to get a job with one of the major recruiters because the entire process seems painless in comparison but I am adamant that I am going to find a job in Japan somehow, but at this stage I am filled with doubts and questions. |
Understandable, but you sound as if you are willing to put in the required planning. Good luck. |
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Apsara
Joined: 20 Sep 2005 Posts: 2142 Location: Tokyo, Japan
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Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 12:20 am Post subject: |
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I was also wondering about the "attain JLPT 1 proficiency as well as a CELTA by the end of the year" part- for most people going from scratch to JLPT 1 requires 2-3 years of fulltime study in Japan, longer if outside Japan.
I'm embarrassed to say I'm still struggling to bring my vocab and grammar up to that level, after a long time in Japan! I passed JLPT 2 a couple of years ago, but JLPT 1 is a big step above that.
Ngrish, if you are worried about things like trains and what kind of accommodation is available, it sounds like you need to get yourself a Japan guide book like Lonely Planet, and spend some time browsing sites like www.japan-guide.com, just to sort out the basics of coming here. Google things like "gaijin house" and "Tokyo subway" and have a look for blogs written by people who are living in Japan to get an idea of how they manage. |
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Ngrish
Joined: 10 Jun 2009 Posts: 4
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Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 5:54 am Post subject: |
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Thank you everybody for your replies.
In regards to the Japanese language ability. My university appears to grade Japanese language courses from 1-5 with 1 being the introductory course. This is confusing I admit because it conflicts with the Japanese standard.
Suffice to say I will only have 45 hours of Japanese language instruction and my CELTA by the end of the year.
More questions!
Firstly, are there any places that English speaking foreigners frequent that I could visit to meet people in Tokyo?
Next, where can you buy cheap food and what can I expect to be eating on the leanest budget I can afford?
Next, supposing I can't find any work in Tokyo where should I move to next? The only reason I choose Tokyo as a place to start is because I expect there to be the most opportunities in the more densely populated centers.
Lastly, is this a bad idea? My mother and brother both teach TESOL, but they all arrived in their destinations via recruiters. It's my understanding that recruiters for Japan are so picky that I'm unlikely to be chosen despite my best efforts. So as a last ditch effort to live my dream and teach in Japan I am prepared to go there myself, but is this foolish? |
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 7:49 am Post subject: |
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Ngrish wrote: |
Firstly, are there any places that English speaking foreigners frequent that I could visit to meet people in Tokyo? |
Plenty of gaijin bars, if you're into that. Some churches, amusement parks, city parks, ball fields, community centers, etc. Don't worry about this.
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Next, where can you buy cheap food and |
Depends on where you live, but there are places like Costco and Cowboy where you can buy in large quantities. Storing it (especially the perishables) may be your only problem, but there are ways to buy cheap here. End of the day, and supermarkets mark many things down, for example.
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what can I expect to be eating on the leanest budget I can afford? |
Too personal a question to really state much with accuracy. How do you live now? I honestly wouldn't fret over a food budget breaking your bank account. A typical teaching job pays roughly 250,000 yen/month for newbies, and you'll have half of that left over after paying for basic necessities. Before you get hired, just stay away from restaurants as much as possible. Judge for yourself if a ramen lunch of 600 yen is cheaper/better than a loaf of bread and cold cuts.
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Next, supposing I can't find any work in Tokyo where should I move to next? The only reason I choose Tokyo as a place to start is because I expect there to be the most opportunities in the more densely populated centers. |
The problem I have with questions like this is the word "should". I really don't like to tell people what they should do, and I don't usually. That's too individual a thing. What sort of climate will you not tolerate? That might be a better thing to consider first. If climate is not a problem, then decide what the larger cities (where there are more opportunities) hold that interest you.
Then again, there's something to be said for mid-sized cities where the competition is lower, as long as you see something there for work...
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Lastly, is this a bad idea? My mother and brother both teach TESOL, but they all arrived in their destinations via recruiters. It's my understanding that recruiters for Japan are so picky that I'm unlikely to be chosen despite my best efforts. So as a last ditch effort to live my dream and teach in Japan I am prepared to go there myself, but is this foolish? |
This looks like 2 questions. First, I'd avoid recruiters. Second, my advice for the past decade has been pretty straightforward:
deal with whatever employers are willing to hire abroad, or come to Japan and look around. The major pluses/minuses are as follows:
Staying home to job hunt.
Most employers don't search abroad. Those that do will have their own locations and recruiting schedules. But, at least you can remain in the safety/security of your homeland until you find something. Very few places will offer paid airfare, though, so keep that in mind. Some will offer discount plans.
Coming here to job hunt.
You have to know the right time of year, or you'll waste time/money. Feb/March is generally peak hiring season. You should expect to spend 1-3 months hunting, though, and don't look for a paycheck until 4-6 weeks after you've been on the job. That means come here with US$4000-5000 in hand to support yourself until a salary comes in. Others have come with less and survived, but times are much harder now. Coming will give you more opportunities to apply to, and you will be able to get used to things before you begin working. But, it's a very lonely thing to do, so networking is very key, keeping in touch with home is often necessary to dispel loneliness, and preparing for the hunt even before you set foot in Japan is critical in my book. |
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tclowers
Joined: 13 Apr 2007 Posts: 22 Location: Fukuoka, Japan
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 7:12 am Post subject: |
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Glenski wrote: |
You have to know the right time of year, or you'll waste time/money. Feb/March is generally peak hiring season. |
How's Sep/Oct for hiring? I've been trying to figure out if it would be better to send applications to a lot of jobs out in rural areas, like I see ads for, or if I should just hold out and look for work in either Tokyo or Osaka (where I would rather live) when I get there in September. Any ideas? |
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 3:01 pm Post subject: |
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tclowers wrote: |
How's Sep/Oct for hiring? |
There is a small surge of hiring for jobs to open in late Sept./early Oct. so you'd have to be here a bit before then.
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I've been trying to figure out if it would be better to send applications to a lot of jobs out in rural areas, like I see ads for, or if I should just hold out and look for work in either Tokyo or Osaka (where I would rather live) when I get there in September. Any ideas? |
I think you should realize how flooded the market is and just apply anywhere. Relocate later. |
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