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Lorean
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Location: Beijing
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 Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 1:02 pm Post subject: Z-Visa Process |
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Hello,
I would like to know the process FROM THE EMPLOYER SIDE for applying for a Z-visa and resident permit. Also, converting an F-visa to a resident permit WITHOUT leaving the country.
The following I have been able to find which details the process for applying for a Z-Visa: http://www.santaferelo.com/ecs/data/sfguide/BJG/Immigration.pdf
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jamesmollo
Joined: 26 Apr 2007
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Location: jilin china
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| Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 2:14 am Post subject: z-visa |
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Are you in shandong now? If so, why are you asking about a z-visa?
A z-visa and f-visa are qute different things. A Z is for work and an F for business. What is required of the employer for a z-visa? an invitation letter and three other documents - not sure what they are (in chinese) to satisfy the chinese consulate.
You do know that z-visas are only issued overseas (correct me if i'm wrong) they need to be changed to a residence permit for foriegners within 30 days of entry into china.
As for changing an f-visa to a residence permit? I don't know if that's possible. |
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grwit
Joined: 20 Apr 2006
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Location: Dagobah
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| Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 3:23 am Post subject: |
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They used to change visas in China but now you cannot. I think you have to get a Z visa out of china, like jamesmollo says.
I have a friend who is being told that he cannot get his visa changed even in Hong Kong which also used to be acceptable, but not now.
As for the answer to your real question... The employer should give you and invitation letter to work in their company and 1 other document issued by the Provincial PSB to say they will issue a resident permit. This means the employer must go to the capitol city of the Province they are in and get this document and while they are there they need to get the invitation letter stamped and signed by the PSB too.
I just applied for my new Z visa while I was on holiday in Australia using these 2 documents I had no problem. |
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North China Laowei
Joined: 08 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 3:43 am Post subject: Re: z-visa |
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| jamesmollo wrote: |
Are you in shandong now? If so, why are you asking about a z-visa?
A z-visa and f-visa are qute different things. A Z is for work and an F for business. What is required of the employer for a z-visa? an invitation letter and three other documents - not sure what they are (in chinese) to satisfy the chinese consulate.
You do know that z-visas are only issued overseas (correct me if i'm wrong) they need to be changed to a residence permit for foriegners within 30 days of entry into china.
As for changing an f-visa to a residence permit? I don't know if that's possible. |
We have been through this question so, so, so many times in the last three months and most of these threads are still up there.
In most provinces, at least up until October 17, 2008, it is practically impossible to obtain a Z visa in province based upon a previously issued F visa. That seems to be the cast almost across the Board...there are exceptions, however, in the larger cities (Nanjing, Shanghai, etc., etc.,) where the FT is actually very acute this term.
We have outlined in great details in these threads exactly what documents are required on the employer's end to process your Z visa and I would encourage to read these threads. It's all there. |
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DistantRelative
Joined: 19 Oct 2004
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Location: Shaanxi/Xian
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| Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 8:00 am Post subject: |
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Should be able to give you a very definitive answer within the next week. Were getting ready to send a fella to HK to get his Z done. This is a guy that is currently here on an L (tourist) visa. He's been in contact with an agency in HK that will assist him. They told him to be sure and have the invitation letter (the one written by the employer, not the SAFEA invitation which already states that it should be processed at the nearest Embassy) state that he should get his Z processed in HK. According to the agency the language used in the letter has a direct bearing on whether he can or can't be issued a Z in HK. I'll update you with outcome, agency used, and costs as soon as I have further details.
Zhuhao,
Shawn |
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eddy-cool
Joined: 06 Jul 2008
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If your employer managed to get an 'F' visa for you plus a FOreign Expert Certificate, then I believe you can apply for a Resident's Permit to the PSB.
But if you worked for a TC that wasn't able to get an FEC for you, then say 'good-bye' to your new contract or legal employment with a new boss. |
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Lildeski
Joined: 04 Mar 2008
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Location: NY,NY
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| Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 1:51 pm Post subject: Z Visa |
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Is it possible to get a working visa from the US? I keep hearing I will have to go to china and then come back to the US to go right back to China?  |
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Moon Over Parma
Joined: 20 May 2007
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| Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 7:16 pm Post subject: Re: Z Visa |
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| Lildeski wrote: |
| Is it possible to get a working visa from the US? I keep hearing I will have to go to china and then come back to the US to go right back to China? |
WHERE are you hearing this?
Here's how it works if you are dealing with Chinese employers on the up-and-up:
They agree to hire you. You agree to the job because it's right for you (in your opinion). They send you paperwork. You do as they say in filling out the paperwork (so long as they don't throw in any iffy stuff). You send it back to them. They send you all of the paperwork. You go to your nearest embassy (in Hell's Kitchen, if you are in New York) and you pay the fees and give them the paperwork. Your passport would then have a Z visa in it if lal is correct. If not, then they will tell you what you need or why they did not give it to you.
ANY school telling you that you need to get a tourist visa then fly to China only to fly all the way back home to do what they should have helped you do in the first place BEFORE YOU MADE YOUR INITIAL TRIP is not a school you should be working for.
This is the reality as of March 2008, and I'd be willing to wager a very modest bet (since I am not a rich man): how it will be from here on out.
Don't panic. Relax. It's a buyer's market. Take a deep breath and if a school feeds you a line of bullshit about having to come over and then fly back to the U. S. then they aren't worth it. Really. They are asking you to do something illegal at a time of great security scrutiny. Could you trust them???
Good luck. |
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