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I want to work in Mexico, I'm old
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kidefl



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 3:03 pm    Post subject: I want to work in Mexico, I'm old Reply with quote

I left Mexico in 2000 and have been dreaming of my return ever since.

I know it's a young person's country. I was just about out of the job market when I left. Please tell me I still have a chance at 64, please.

Been an EFLer since 1989, worked in top Mexican universities, very fluent in Spanish, have a BA in Cultural Anthropology with grad studies in Mexican Family Values. Lived there 19 years. Does any of this mean anything to a university these days, to a language school?

I'm in Thailand at present and it's okay, but not as okay as mi quierido mexico.

Thanx, JB
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MO39



Joined: 28 Jan 2004
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Location: El ombligo de la Rep�blica Mexicana

PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 3:13 pm    Post subject: Re: I want to work in Mexico, I'm old Reply with quote

kidefl wrote:
I left Mexico in 2000 and have been dreaming of my return ever since.

I know it's a young person's country. I was just about out of the job market when I left. Please tell me I still have a chance at 64, please.

Been an EFLer since 1989, worked in top Mexican universities, very fluent in Spanish, have a BA in Cultural Anthropology with grad studies in Mexican Family Values. Lived there 19 years. Does any of this mean anything to a university these days, to a language school?

Thanx, JB


I don't know where you got the idea that Mexico is only for young people. I'm just a year younger than you, and I haven't had trouble getting work in Mexico City. And you can always work independently and look for private students through ads on-line and in print and through contacts, often the best way.
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thelmadatter



Joined: 31 Mar 2003
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Location: in el Distrito Federal x fin!

PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 3:14 pm    Post subject: old? Reply with quote

Old? Naaaaaaaaahhhhhhh

I dont know why you are so sure that you are too old for the job market. True there is age discrimination here but it really doesnt touch the English teacher market too much, esp. for native speakers.

Im 44 and just changed jobs after 5 years in Toluca. No one has ever asked me my age at a job interview.

There are 2 regulars here in their 50's and 60's who Im sure will add their 2 pesos.

Your experience and education will help you quite a bit, methinks.

*****Dang MO... you are fast! you posted before me!
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Phil_K



Joined: 25 Jan 2007
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Location: A World of my Own

PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've said it before, and I'll say it again...any company that won't employ you, isn't worth working for. One of the best teachers I know is the same age as you, Mexican, but equally adept at teaching Spanish and English, and to boot, was the teacher who added the fine tuning to my Spanish.
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El Gallo



Joined: 05 Feb 2007
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

no hay problema.

..some stingy owners won't hire you because your health insurance is higher and there are some snobby schools like Interlink that want a young image.

Screw them - there are plenty of other opportunities. I know a woman who is pushing 70 and teaching English in a university.

I'm planning to teach until I'm 75 (God willing)
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MO39



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 5:23 pm    Post subject: Re: old? Reply with quote

thelmadatter wrote:
Old? Naaaaaaaaahhhhhhh

I dont know why you are so sure that you are too old for the job market. True there is age discrimination here but it really doesnt touch the English teacher market too much, esp. for native speakers.

There are 2 regulars here in their 50's and 60's who Im sure will add their 2 pesos.

*****Dang MO... you are fast! you posted before me!


TD, love the way you began your post. I got to it before you did because I have more time on my hands than you do, being semi-retired and all Very Happy
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TheLongWayHome



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 1:54 pm    Post subject: Re: I want to work in Mexico, I'm old Reply with quote

kidefl wrote:
I know it's a young person's country. I was just about out of the job market when I left. Please tell me I still have a chance at 64, please.

From what I've seen in SLP, I wouldn't say it was a young person's country. Many teachers come here to retire and teach a bit. The chain schools probably won't hire you, but they don't hire anyone over 35 these days - and would you really want to work for one?
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kidefl



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanx y'all I feel better now. Here in Thailand I live on about US$600 a month. Can one live on that in say .. Guadalajara, no drinking, no womanizing?

I could murder a beef burrito with guacamole right now.
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throwdownyourcrutches



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kidefl, what region of Thailand are you able to live so cheaply? That is a lower number than I usually hear. Thanks.
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MO39



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, kidefl, in the D.F. there's no way you could survive on $600 US a month, unless you had somewhere to live for free. I don't think that the cost-of-living in Guadalajara is much different than it is here, but we need to hear from someone living there to be sure.
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El Gallo



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 6:18 pm    Post subject: Re: I want to work in Mexico, I'm old Reply with quote

TheLongWayHome wrote:
kidefl wrote:
I know it's a young person's country. I was just about out of the job market when I left. Please tell me I still have a chance at 64, please.

From what I've seen in SLP, I wouldn't say it was a young person's country. Many teachers come here to retire and teach a bit. The chain schools probably won't hire you, but they don't hire anyone over 35 these days - and would you really want to work for one?


I totally agree - maybe I'm basking in the fact I paid my dues with horrible private English schools but I will never go back. The coordinator of a prestigious private school in Tuxtla contacted me yesterday. My reply was quick and polite - No thank you.
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Guy Courchesne



Joined: 10 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 12:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MO39 wrote:
Well, kidefl, in the D.F. there's no way you could survive on $600 US a month, unless you had somewhere to live for free. I don't think that the cost-of-living in Guadalajara is much different than it is here, but we need to hear from someone living there to be sure.


No? I know several teachers doing it. If your rent is $1000-$2000 a month (furnished room, homestay type thing) then you're clearing 4000-5000 pesos a month. Covers basic expenses and nothing extravagant of course.

My monthly expenses are about 800 usd a month (sharing a place wit another person), but I live quite well.
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MO39



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 2:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guy Courchesne wrote:
MO39 wrote:
Well, kidefl, in the D.F. there's no way you could survive on $600 US a month, unless you had somewhere to live for free. I don't think that the cost-of-living in Guadalajara is much different than it is here, but we need to hear from someone living there to be sure.


No? I know several teachers doing it. If your rent is $1000-$2000 a month (furnished room, homestay type thing) then you're clearing 4000-5000 pesos a month. Covers basic expenses and nothing extravagant of course.

My monthly expenses are about 800 usd a month (sharing a place wit another person), but I live quite well.


When I wrote that it would be impossible to live in the DF on $600 US a month I was thinking of having your own place to live, and more than just a furnished room. With an income this low, you'd be able to pay rent and utilities, eat, buy other essentials like toiletry items, and take public transportation to get around. Your entertainment options would be pretty limited, and you probably wouldn't be able to afford short trips out of town, and certainly not vacations. If you got sick and needed to buy medicine, which is not as inexpensive as it used to be, and see a doctor, you'd be in trouble.
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sweeney66



Joined: 26 Mar 2008
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 3:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have been known to live on $6000 per month, without suffering. A couple of beers on the weekend, cinema or a museum,etc. With $8000 I can have "luxuries." I suppose I am kind of exceptionally thrifty, though.
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MO39



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guy and sweeney are making me look like a spendthrift! Sweeney, what kind of "luxuries" can you afford on $8000 a month?
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