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"Trinity" TESOL???

 
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sunbear



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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 3:16 pm    Post subject: "Trinity" TESOL??? Reply with quote

I'm trying to find out more about what "Trinity" TESOL is and if/how it differs from "other" TESOL programs. For example, I've found a program in Thailand - American TESOL and their accredidation is listed below. Is this considered "Trinity?" If not - does that matter, and should I find one that is??

Thanks in advance

-A

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American TESOL Institute is identified with quality and reliability. Its programs are revered across America and the certificates recognized globally. American TESOL institute�s credibility as a teachers training provider has been substantiated by its accreditation and affiliation to bodies that set parameters of excellence for TEFL course providers. American TESOL currently works with thousands affiliate Institutions, Organizations, and Governmental Bodies, and guarantees academic satisfaction and valuable placement assistance to its graduates.

American TESOL Programs are accredited by AAIEP. AAIEP was established in 2005 as the pioneering accrediting agency in the USA for TESOL - ESL certification programs. By enrolling in courses that are accredited by AAIEP, participants can be sure they will be making an informed choice of training course and will be trained to internationally acceptable standards. The accreditation also ensures that the students will gain a competitive edge in the ELT job market and will be paid in accordance with rates prevalent in the country of employment and meet goals of professionalism and integrity.

American TESOL Institute is a Global ambassador school for iEARN. Started in 1988, iEARN is the world's largest non-profit global network that enables teachers and young people to use the Internet and other new technologies to collaborate on projects that both enhance learning and make a difference in the world. ATI teachers receive iEARN membership

ATI is a member of Central Florida TESOL Organization located in Orlando Florida and is licensed under SAFEA.

American TESOL Programs are accredited by USETTA. It is the acronym for United States English Teacher Training Association established in 2005. USETTA works as a pioneering accrediting agency in the USA for TESOL programs to teach English as a second language. Standards for certification programs to teach English to speakers of other languages (TESOL), teach TESOL abroad, and to teach volunteer TESOL USA are established and maintained by USETTA in the USA. USETTA�s accreditation makes ATI�s programs even more dependable.

American TESOL is a member of USDLA (United States Distance Learning Association) as well. USDLA is committed to being the leading distance learning association in the United States. USDLA serves the needs of the distance learning community by providing advocacy, information, networking and opportunity.

American TESOL Institute is partnered with �Interpark Communications� and �Talkbean�. They are the world largest and most sophisticated providers of online ESL training. ATI�s online TESOL programs are doubly strengthened by its association with the skilled online training providers.


The other associations of American TESOL include �

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It�s membership of Central Florida TESOL Organization located in Orlando Florida.
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American TESOL Institute is state licensed in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, USA.
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

American TESOL isn't the same as Trinity, you'll have to go to the Trinity website to see where they teach it.
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Will.



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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 9:06 am    Post subject: Trinity College London Reply with quote

Trinity College London

ESOL and TESOL exams and teacher training amongst other things like music...take a look

http://www.trinitycollege.co.uk/
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Justin Trullinger



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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trinity is far from being the only option in TESOL training, but you're right that they have a good name. "American TESOL," whoever they are, would be completely unrelated to them; just using the same acronym, which is not copyright, nor especially meaningful.

I've never heard of American TESOL, but based on what you've posted, would steer clear of them. Here's why:


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Its programs are revered across America and the certificates recognized globally


Odd writing style, and a false statement. I am from the US, and have a decade's experience in the field. I have never heard of them. In any case, I do not revere any TESOL certificate, and neither does anybody else. Not even well known, certainly not revered.

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as a teachers training provider


Any organisation who wants to train people to teach English should be able to write it, and should have their website proofread.

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AAIEP was established in 2005 as the pioneering accrediting agency in the USA for TESOL - ESL certification programs.


What does AAIEP stand for, anyway? And why would a new organisation need to be founded to accredit teacher training, when we have so darn many universities? AAIEP, on Google, appears to be the American Association of Intensive English Programs, though there may be more than one organisation using that acronym. In the first 20 or so hits, there is no mention of any organisation that accredits teacher training programs, nor is there any connection I can find to American TESOL institute. A search containing both AAIEP and AMerican TESOL Institute turns up first the ATI website, then this thread.

So then I had a look at the American TESOL Institute website- many rather strange looking online options, one onsite option. The fact that an organisation will offer online programs that can't meet even minimum standards in the industry doesn't really speak well for their onsite courses either.

Accredited by two different organisations, each of which is only 3 years old.

USETTA has its own webpage. While your ad states:

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USETTA�s accreditation makes ATI�s programs even more dependable.


Follow this link and click on USETTA membership: http://usetta.org/

You'll see that USETTA, far from being a prestigious accreditation organisation that sets a standard in teacher training, actually only accredits two organisations, of which American TESOL is one.

Their website also contains the cryptic statement that:

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USETTA now in application for recognition


Whatever that means. Maybe this isn't even a "recognised" organisation?

SAFEA, on google, might be either: State Administration of Foreign Experts Affairs, a Chinese organisation or: Sports and Fitness Equipment Association, a British one. Could also be the Singapore Aquarium Fish Exporters Association. Again, no detectable link to American TESOL institute in any. (Though the State Administration of Foreign Expert Affairs site is down, so maybe...)

The USDLA, according to its website, does not accredit or attest to the quality of members' programs. It is a professional advocacy group for distance learning organisations. Membership is obtained by paying a fee and filling out an application. But, though there is no search feature and I can't be sure, American TESOL Institute doesn't turn up on the checkable member lists that I was able to find.

Weird prose; no meaningful, traceable accreditations; offers online quals of questionable value; makes over-the-top claims about the value of their qualifications. THere may be something I'm missing here, and I've only spent about 10 minutes researching this one, but I would really take a miss on this if I were you.

I'm not a Trinity fanatic, but I do believe that the well-known names in this area (Trinity, CELTA, and SIT, imo), while perhaps not a guarantee of what you're looking for, at least make sure that minimum standards are met.

Be a little sceptical, folks. CHeck ANYPLACE out thoroughly before you send them your hard earned bucks.


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Justin
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PeterDragon



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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2008 2:42 am    Post subject: BEst certification to get online? Reply with quote

What's the best certification that can be gotten online or via correspondence? Is TEFL where it's at? Can you get a TESOL or CELTA online? And what are the differences between the different certificates?
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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2008 2:46 am    Post subject: Re: BEst certification to get online? Reply with quote

PeterDragon wrote:
What's the best certification that can be gotten online or via correspondence? Is TEFL where it's at? Can you get a TESOL or CELTA online? And what are the differences between the different certificates?


I can't comment from personal experience on online courses (never heard of any by correspondence) though the consensus here is that they're not very useful for the someone who's never taught before, and many language schools will not hire someone with that kind of certificate. TEFL is not the name of a certificate training course - it's one of several acronyms that name the profession: Teaching of English as a Foreign Language.
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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2008 2:55 am    Post subject: Re: BEst certification to get online? Reply with quote

PeterDragon wrote:
What's the best certification that can be gotten online or via correspondence? Is TEFL where it's at? Can you get a TESOL or CELTA online? And what are the differences between the different certificates?


You may find a link posted by Chancellor of interest:
http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?p=654854#654854

If you aren't Candian, or completing the practicum there isn't an option, you'd probably still have problems convincing employers that you could teach, but at least the theoretical components are somewhat "accredited".
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Same scam different name
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parrothead



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 7:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Same scam different name

Can you elaborate?
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Stephen Jones



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trinity and CELTA are the only two generally accepted qualifications.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

naturegirl321 wrote:
American TESOL isn't the same as Trinity, you'll have to go to the Trinity website to see where they teach it.


Thank you Naturegirl for this very important info! I've long wondered about some of those cert. courses offered here and there: so, Tesol is not copyrighted and any poseur can use it...I'm starting to look for Tesol courses in Thailand, and I'd sure like one with 'Trinity' next to it, but then, that name isn't copyrighted either.
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