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wayne432



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 3:15 pm    Post subject: Japanese obsession with crossdressing Reply with quote

Okay, so most people probably know that fashion in Japan is pretty crazy I'm sure. But, I'm not here to talk about how much more metrosexual guys are in Japan than the rest of the world, or about cosplay, or even dumpster style fashion, yada yada.

I'm curious why parents (almost always moms) love to dress their young sons (around preschool age) as girls? I've seen it now many times, and usually I'm able to spot it, because I have a keen eye, but it always fools everyone else.

I had a friend who homestayed with a family that dressed their boy as a girl. My friend said that the boy had tons of dresses, hair ties, etc...

Scarring a kid for life... check

So any ideas?
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Ryu Hayabusa



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I'm to believe the movie, "Dragon" with Jason Scott Lee, Bruce Lee was dressed as a girl when he was young to avert the evil eye. He also turned out to be one of the world greatest martial artists. Perhaps the parents have this in mind? Laughing
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wintersweet



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 2:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it's really as common as you say, then why would the kid be scarred for life?
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markle



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 1:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Japanese obsession with crossdressing Reply with quote

OK I'll bite

wayne432 wrote:
I'm curious why parents (almost always moms) love to dress their young sons (around preschool age) as girls? I've seen it now many times, and usually I'm able to spot it, because I have a keen eye, but it always fools everyone else.
So you're saying that you have a keen sense of recognising young boys dressed as girls? Hmmmm BTW how do you confirm your suspicions? Take a squizz up thier dresses? Ever have any trouble with police about that?

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I had a friend who homestayed with a family that dressed their boy as a girl. My friend said that the boy had tons of dresses, hair ties, etc...
you seem jealous

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Scarring a kid for life... check
sounds like the voice of experience...

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So any ideas?
You need therapy.

Personally, in my 3+ years here I worked in a kinder, have taken my baby to playgroup and have never come across such a thing.. but then I'm not on the prowl for crossdressing infants.....
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wayne432



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 2:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Japanese obsession with crossdressing Reply with quote

markle wrote:
So you're saying that you have a keen sense of recognising young boys dressed as girls? Hmmmm BTW how do you confirm your suspicions? Take a squizz up thier dresses? Ever have any trouble with police about that?

Har har :p
I just ask Japanese teachers at the place I work to confirm suspicions.

markle wrote:
Personally, in my 3+ years here I worked in a kinder, have taken my baby to playgroup and have never come across such a thing.. but then I'm not on the prowl for crossdressing infants.....


Huh, I'm surprised a bit that people haven't seen it more often. In my less than 6 months in Japan, I've come across around 40 cases or so. Hence my post...
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AgentMulderUK



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't seen it in real life.

But Japanese quiz/variety TV seems to commonly feature men dressed as schoolgirls, as well as numerous excuses to dress fully grown women as schoolgirls.

*shrug*
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Apsara



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my 10 years in Japan, I haven't noticed it at all- are you saying you actually had 40 cases confirmed by teachers in 6 months? Seems a lot.

Older men dressed up as women, especially around the Omotesando/ Aoyama area for some reason, but I haven't seen any junior cross dressers. Will start looking out for them, but I kind of doubt it's quite that widespread.
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wayne432



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 12:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well in 6 months I've been here, I've been all around various parts Japan (Kansai, Kanto, Kyushu) and that's the only reason I've seen so many.
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gaijinalways



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've seen a few in 11 years, but I also have heard about an annual fashion event at a prep school that will remain nameless, that featured cross dressing both ways.
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wayne432



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 1:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not gonna lie, that sounds like a plot from a manga. So I guess I wouldn't be surprised if it was real.
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reasonJP



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 2:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm frequently astonished at how girly a lot of men in Japan are. In my teaching experience though, I've had the reverse happen. Had a little kid who had her haircut in a fairly boyish style join my class when I was a new teacher and whenever she did something right I'd say 'good boy' and put her on the boys team when we were doing competitive stuff, because I honestly thought she was a little dude.
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taffer



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 2:32 pm    Post subject: Not wanting to judge Reply with quote

Wayne,

i rarely post here because I am disturbed and have little to add to the Productive Column, but I have to wonder what you mean when you claim to have come across 40 cases. Based on the sheer outlandishness of your post, I suspect the 40 cases involved Jinro soju...
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wayne432



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 2:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

To be honest, I have no idea what that means...

I guess I'm a bit surprised. Either that, or maybe people here are much less surprised by a boy with long hair wearing a dress.
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Quibby84



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 4:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Theres a 2 year old boy at my school that wears his hair in a ponytail on top of his hair..when it was shorter he wore a hair clip...its really weird, and he already has a girly face...I dont know why they dont just cut his hair.
Maybe they wanted a girl??...
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Hoser



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've never seen boys dressed up by their parents as girls. However on basically every single variety show, a cross-dressing male is a standard requirement. What the hell is up with that anyways? I know we do it sometimes as well but all the god damn time?? I just don't get it.
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