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Tumblashu's parents



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 3:15 pm    Post subject: Maternity Leave Reply with quote

Hi

We are thinking of working in the UAE. What kind of maternity leave can we expect to get?
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mishmumkin



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

45 days maternity leave by law and 18 months of "nursing" time after your leave (could be 2 half-hour breaks or 1 hour for nursing each day).
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Tumblashu's parents



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you know anyone who manages to make use of these half hour 'boobie breaks'?

Because unless you have the baby on standby on campus, I can't see it working...
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mishmumkin



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 3:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Speculating here, but perhaps it's for expressing milk.
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smedini



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So if you're a woman hired by contract to work in the UAE you can have maternity leave? I'm just curious (mostly Wink )...I really don't intend to have more children but sometimes things happen and if that's the case and I'm on a contract, I can have maternity leave?

I had no idea...I assumed you wouldn't be allowed because you're on a contract...

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mishmumkin



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quite common, actually. It wouldn't be a bad gig at all for someone who wanted to work and have children.
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In fact, there is often enough of it that people get tired of having to cover people's classes... especially as one doesn't get any more pay or time off or even a thank you from the mothers.

But... don't do it if you are single... that is a criminal offense. I know of a couple of female teachers who decamped rather suddenly.

VS
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smedini



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 2:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey VS...

Is that a "veiled" hint that maternity leave isn't fair or appreciated!? Wink

I'm not saying that I'd like to take advantage of the system, though it is good to know...I just assumed that it would be cause for voiding the contract or something.

Hmm...what other secrets don't I know about this place!

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 4:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not veiled at all... in my opinion, it is not handled fairly. After repeated semesters, having to cover for teachers who are out for nearly two months gets very tiresome.

But, I'm sure that the new mothers appreciate it. Cool

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NadiaK



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Err...when I was out on maternity leave my classes were covered by an adjunct who was paid for it. And I'm sure I remembered to thank her for it (why wouldn't I?).

I also expressed milk on campus - the college director was very supportive and made sure I had an appropriate place to do it.
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Opti



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Err...when I was out on maternity leave my classes were covered by an adjunct who was paid for it. And I'm sure I remembered to thank her for it (why wouldn't I?).

I also expressed milk on campus - the college director was very supportive and made sure I had an appropriate place to do it.


Nadia, as another teacher who covered for several colleagues out on maternity leave, I can say that the two Gulf national universities at which I taught did not hire adjuncts. Regular faculty had to do it.
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smedini



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's unfortunate that such a benefit to some is such a hardship to others - obviously it's created a bad feeling or two out there Wink . As I said when I originally posted, I was surprised to hear that maternity leave was even an option on a contracted position but I'm glad it is, even if I won't be taking advantage of it myself Confused ! However, if the school is going to offer that option, they should provide adjuncts to cover the missed classes - or offer incentives/bonuses for those faculty that have to.

IMHO
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NadiaK



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hear hear, Smedini. I'm gobsmacked to hear that this is not par for the course.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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45 days maternity leave by law and 18 months of "nursing" time after your leave (could be 2 half-hour breaks or 1 hour for nursing each day).

I know one lady who was working in an international school.
She was given 2 weeks (unpaid Shocked ) to get back to work or else.... I don t think this should have been allowed.

I was so shocked. It seems inhumane compared to Europe where 5 months paid maternity leave is the norm (in my country anyway).

We all had to cover as she took some of our classes but we couldn t complain. We just felt too sorry for her Sad She was exhausted poor thing!

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had no idea...I assumed you wouldn't be allowed because you're on a contract...

I would have though they would hardly make you leave your job over getting pregnant. Then again thats before I realised the way companies can treat people in the emirates.
There was nothing mentioned in the contract I signed in any case.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 1:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It sounds like they were trying to follow the US system. Shocked

But, they were breaking the maternity law that exists in every Gulf country. It is just that expats don't know the laws and allow something like this to happen. This wouldn't have happened at any of the legitimate employers.

It makes good sense to check your new employer's coverage if there is any chance that you may decide to have a baby while you are there.

VS
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