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veiledsentiments
Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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scot47
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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 9:16 am Post subject: |
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I suspect this sort of thing is fairly common - maybe not in Bahrain though. |
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veiledsentiments
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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 1:53 pm Post subject: |
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How many teachers have you heard of being "charged" for something other than the woman in the Sudan? I only know of the one teacher in the UAE who referred her students to a website with the Danish cartoons as part of a lesson. And, I don't recall if she was charged, but was fired and had to leave.
It never happened anywhere that I taught and I never heard any gossip of it happening at other institutions while I was around the Gulf. Have you?
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johnslat
Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 13859 Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 2:13 pm Post subject: |
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We had an "incident" once at the IPA. A teacher (who should have known better) referred to the Prophet Muhammed in class.
It was a lesson which dealt with "contemporary heroes", and, of course, one of the students picked the Prophet.
The teacher tried to explain why that would be an "inappropriate choice", given the qualifying adjective "contemporary", but, as he should have realized, he just dug a deeper and deeper hole for himself.
It took a LOT of wasta to keep that teacher from not only being fired but brought up on charges of blasphemy.
There may be more of that going on than ever makes the news. |
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veiledsentiments
Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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I'm sure that this could come up more in KSA than the rest of the Gulf. I expect that most of the time, it doesn't go beyond the departmental administration.
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scot47
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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 4:52 am Post subject: |
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I was referring to conflicts arising because some teachers are not careful about what they say in front of students.
Cases involving the authorities are not common but in some places I have worked, a major task of the manager was to listen to complaints from students about the teachers. These were often related to "unIslamic" remarks.
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veiledsentiments
Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 1:25 pm Post subject: |
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This isn't the situation in the rest of the Gulf. Another good reason to avoid KSA.
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scot47
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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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No. It just proves that the other Gulf States are run by a bunch of softies ! |
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johnslat
Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 13859 Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 10:13 pm Post subject: It ain't in Webster's but . . . . |
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Dear scot47,
softies: definition: non-fanatical non-zealots.
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John |
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scot47
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Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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Johnslat
I am all for zealots - and bigots. How else can we have a discussion? I never had a good argument with a liberal yet ! |
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johnslat
Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 13859 Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 5:01 pm Post subject: And in this corner |
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Dear scot47,
Ready whenever you are, big boy.
Regards,
John |
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scot47
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Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 8:11 am Post subject: |
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Johnslat is the only liberal zealot I know. |
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sandersjayfer
Joined: 29 Jun 2009 Posts: 14 Location: Saudi Arabia
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Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 12:27 pm Post subject: I'm a liberal |
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Scot47 just bring it on! So-called "conservatives" (lost in the past, resistant to change) have ruined much of the world by failing to recognize that things change with knowledge. Just look north to KSA for a case in point. |
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johnslat
Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 13859 Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 1:54 pm Post subject: |
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Dear scot47,
You think I'm a "zealot?" You should see/hear some of the people I hang around with; they make me seem like a right-wing conservative (well, a "moderate", anyway.)
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John |
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veiledsentiments
Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 3:25 pm Post subject: |
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Well... you do live in that 'new-age' 'hippie-haven' of Santa Fe...
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