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Where you properly reimbursed for your trip to China?
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No
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JJ711



Joined: 17 May 2005
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 11:19 pm    Post subject: Travel Reimbursement Reply with quote

I was wondering if it was usual for employers to refuse flight reimbursement, based on the fact that the receipt was not stamped by the Chinese Tax Bureau. I bought a round-trip ticket from an agency in Guangzhou. They sent me the receipt per my request, and when I returned to the mainland I gave my employer my flight stubs, the e-ticket, and the receipt. He told me that I would not be reimbursed, because the receipt didn't have the red Chinese stamp; some of you might be familiar with this symbol, of course. The school is Peking University, and they are usually extremely good about foreign teacher support. Personally, I think it's a good poll question, because I've never heard any of my colleagues complain about getting their travel money back.
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arioch36



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 3:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

With what you gave, and a contract that says the flight reimbursement is part of the contract (which is, after all, the SAFEA guideline/rule) I have almost never heard of a school saying no.

One exception, maybe 5 years ago, arrived at my new school, and they wanted me to sign the "real contract" The real contract mentioned they would give me 3,000 RMB. They said, "oh we're sorry, it's the best we can do" One trip to the Hnean waishiban took care of that problem, and they apologized for the "misunderstanding"
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JJ711



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 4:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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One trip to the Hnean waishiban took care of that problem, and they apologized for the "misunderstanding"

Ah...I was hoping it wouldn't come to that.
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loboman



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Peking University


Is this in Beijing or Wuxi? If I may ask.
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JJ711



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reimbursement? Reply with quote

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Is this in Beijing or Wuxi? If I may ask.

This is in Wuxi (the new campus). Only a scarce handful of people know about PKU's new campus in Wuxi. I'd sure be happy if you could enlighten me about any aspects of this place.
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arioch36



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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One trip to the Hnean waishiban took care of that problem, and they apologized for the "misunderstanding"

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Ah...I was hoping it wouldn't come to that
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Agreed, if u have thoughts of continuing at the school not the best way.

Peking U has countless schools bearing their name across the country
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JJ711



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reimbursement? Reply with quote

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Peking U has countless schools bearing their name across the country


Yeah, what's in a name these days, especially in China? So far, I've taught "Technical English" at PKU's Haidian district campus, Daxing campus (both in Beijing), the Shenzhen campus (Yili area), and now this place. They also have students in a large Beijing foundry (it manufactures computer components); I gave lectures there as well. Then, there are the PSB 'cybercops' who pursue their graduate degree part-time; I had them in Beijing and I will have them again in Wuxi.

So, what you're telling me is completely correct. 'Peking University', like Tsinghua University to some extent, has become a sort of 'brand name' in China. I'm not whining about it, but I feel a little naive for not being more aware of such a thing.
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loboman



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 4:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I interviewed with Peking University at Wuxi. Was offered the position and turned it down. There were just too many loose ends and I got the feeling I was being sold the extended warranty and undercoating before I even decided to buy the car.

There were just too many cons and very few pros.

Salary offered was 8000 a month.
Airfare was stated as 1200 us dollars for 1 semester contract and 2000 us dollars for a one year.

Cons:
They would not state how many hours a week or month to work. Just that I would work �full time� for PKU.

Told that when not teaching I would have to work with the students and guide them but when asked specifically what I had to do or what hours I would do this the answer was �when you are needed�.

The rooms were very small. No cooking. No refrigerator. No Microwave. No washing machine (told there was a communal laundry room for students to use). No computer.
The school location is terrible. There is nothing close by! Not even a bus line.

The visa situation is what really scared me off. They wanted me to work on an F visa. Gave me plenty of doubletalk when I asked why they would get me an F instead of a real legal working visa. Especially after they told me what a great and big school they are.

I had several interviews with them. They called me and offered me the position but, I declined as I had too many doubts about what they told me and what I thought was the truth. One of the interviewers told me that I would not exactly work for the school but the school would pay me. My internal thought was WTF? SO I asked if I would work for him and he replied, �not exactly�. So I wasn�t sure who I was working for and I didn�t like that one bit.

On top of that he gave me the textbook that the class would use. He told me he �wrote� it. And then after I had a chance to read it I realized that is was manly the work of other and he bound it and printed a textbook. There were no credits to the true authors or anything that pointed out that it was anyone�s work but him.

So Peking University at Wuxi- too many alarm bells went off in my head and after reading the ops issues I see my Spidey Sense was correct and if I let my guard down the thread may have been my own � except with the title �I was listening to 50 Cent and my school tried to steal my ho and my airfare and why I trashed their office and stomped them like a Crip would stomp a Blood��
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vikuk



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Then, there are the PSB 'cybercops' who pursue their graduate degree part-time; I had them in Beijing and I will have them again in Wuxi.

wow - you feel good about educating these folk - when you know how they might be using that English. I have a feeling some folk won't be too bothered about you losing that airfare Idea
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JJ711



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reimbursement? Reply with quote

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wow - you feel good about educating these folk - when you know how they might be using that English. I have a feeling some folk won't be too bothered about you losing that airfare

Sad
Actually, they came across as sort of human. They would often take me to lunch, etc. They practically dragged me to their Christmas party, where they really partied and put away some liquor. Like typical mainland students, they took turns singing and dancing. I reminded them (mostly half-jokingly) that I didn't take bribes, but during the last class they gave me some expensive 'Fuwa' cards as a going-away present.
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vikuk



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Actually, they came across as sort of human. They would often take me to lunch, etc. They practically dragged me to their Christmas party, where they really partied and put away some liquor. Like typical mainland students, they took turns singing and dancing. I reminded them (mostly half-jokingly) that I didn't take bribes, but during the last class they gave me some expensive 'Fuwa' cards as a going-away present

I wonder if they do this for all their clients - how many of them get to see the human side of a PSB cybercop Idea
Amazing what some FT's are prepared to do for money - very sad Exclamation
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JJ711



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Amazing what some FT's are prepared to do for money - very sad

I suspect most people post on this forum because they, like myself, are not prepared for the obstacle(s) that suddenly confront(s) them. If an FT can't trust Peking University, who can they trust? Well, sometimes only hard experience provides the answer; I only wanted to share mine. Insofar as the PSB is concerned, I have no more of a personal issue with them than I do the CIA, FBI, Homeland Security, or any other security agency. I don't have insider knowledge about their conduct, and don't pretend to.

I must apologize to the moderators if I have allowed this thread to digress from its original concern. However, the replies so far seem to address the implied issue, which is whether schools generally adhere to stipulations of contracts.
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vikuk



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If an FT can't trust Peking University, who can they trust?

Trust and a state institution in a one party state - now that's an interesting concept Laughing Laughing Laughing

JJ711 - you know earlier this year some of our threads were mysteriously blocked for writing certain words. Could have been something to do with those trust-worthy cyber-cops you've been teaching Idea
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