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Lorean
Joined: 21 Dec 2006 Posts: 476 Location: Beijing
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Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 5:32 am Post subject: Hong Kong Visa Success |
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First a word of warning, the Hong Kong visa service is overloaded. First you line up outside the building until the security guard ushers you inside. Afterwards, you take the elevator up to the visa office whereupon there is another large line-up for passport pickups, and another lineup to get a ticket number for your visa application (similar to waiting-in-bank system).
Before flying to Hong Kong, I had attempted to telephone the visa office with no success - always the same busy line. HOWEVER, they were responsive to emails and faxes. They recommended I fax over the intended application documents before coming.
I initially sent over a cover letter with my contact information and my sponsoring party's letter of invitation. I was promptly contacted and told to provide the sponsor's business license. A copy would be acceptable; however, it needs to be stamped with the company's seal.
That same afternoon, I faxed over the cover letter, stamped invitation letter, and stamped business license copy. My office was contacted that same afternoon and informed that we were clear for visa application.
I flew out the following morning.
The visa office will do expedited super-rush 24-hour processing service. But, they word this as two-working days processing time. However, what they mean is that visas applied for in the morning will be ready the following morning. Visas applied for in the afternoon will be ready the following afternoon.
I have been informed that it IS possible to apply for single entry F-visas and Z-visas in Hong Kong. However, double/multiple-entry F-visas will only be issued to Hong Kong residents; I confirmed this through email and later directly from the woman at the application window.
The entire process (included rush service) cost me 450 HK dollars. I am a Canadian citizen. Americans should expect to pay a lot more. |
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Sinobear

Joined: 24 Aug 2004 Posts: 1269 Location: Purgatory
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Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 5:40 am Post subject: |
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Thanks so much for the info.
Cheers! |
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fitzgud
Joined: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 148 Location: Henan province
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Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 5:53 am Post subject: |
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Lorean,
I presume you got the Z visa that you were seeking when you made your initial inquiry here? |
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Lorean
Joined: 21 Dec 2006 Posts: 476 Location: Beijing
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Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 7:44 am Post subject: |
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fitzgud wrote: |
Lorean,
I presume you got the Z visa that you were seeking when you made your initial inquiry here? |
Not yet. I am on an F-visa. The application process for Z-visas in Beijing has become beyond goofy. The department wants to see my original diploma as well as proof of two years of employment (Date of diploma issuance is not sufficient, apparently)
We are still putting together the necessary paperwork. |
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therock

Joined: 31 Jul 2005 Posts: 1266 Location: China
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 12:28 am Post subject: |
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Lorean wrote: |
Not yet. I am on an F-visa. The application process for Z-visas in Beijing has become beyond goofy. The department wants to see my original diploma as well as proof of two years of employment (Date of diploma issuance is not sufficient, apparently)
We are still putting together the necessary paperwork. |
I hope you are not doing all this run around for a measly 3500RMB. |
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arioch36
Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 3589
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 2:59 am Post subject: |
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Lorean
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The application process for Z-visas in Beijing has become beyond goofy |
Applications for z-visas in Beijing should be beyond Goofy, bordering on Pluto. After all, a z-visa is for coming into the country to work. If you are already working in the country (hence illegally) don't you think the government should look at that closely? I would certainly expect my home country not to make it easy fo foreigners to enter illegally, and then seek a permit to work legally |
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Lorean
Joined: 21 Dec 2006 Posts: 476 Location: Beijing
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 4:01 am Post subject: |
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arioch36 wrote: |
Lorean
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The application process for Z-visas in Beijing has become beyond goofy |
Applications for z-visas in Beijing should be beyond Goofy, bordering on Pluto. After all, a z-visa is for coming into the country to work. If you are already working in the country (hence illegally) don't you think the government should look at that closely? I would certainly expect my home country not to make it easy fo foreigners to enter illegally, and then seek a permit to work legally |
@arioch36,
FYI I am not doing anything illegal.
I am talking about getting the letter from the FEC, which has to be done no matter whether you are applying from inside or outside China.
The documents they requested can easily be forged. In fact there are services in North American that will forge your Harvard diploma. The only way to verify a diploma is to contact with the issuing school directly. Work experience can easily be forged. I have several friends who've incorporated companies with names like 904239413 INC, and I could easily write myself a fictitious employment letter, with a real company seal. There's no way to prove work experience; therefore, it's a stupid policy, they should either require degree holder for X years or an age limit.
We are doing all this work for no perceivable reason. Only because someone in the government with enough power thinks it's a good idea, but doesn't understand the real world. |
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arioch36
Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 3589
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 5:09 am Post subject: |
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that wasn't a "You r bad person" illegal.
In my seven years, I have been illegal at least three timtwice. it makes for a pain in the ass.
If you are currently working, and did not enter on a z-visa, you are working illegally.
Working on a F visa is illegal, though in the past widely widely done. And sometimes it burned people |
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Lorean
Joined: 21 Dec 2006 Posts: 476 Location: Beijing
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 7:33 am Post subject: |
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@arioch, it's illegal if you are receiving pay in China. Possibly also illegal if you are working for a Chinese employer (that I don't know). I got out of teaching many months ago, I'm working for a foreign firm. |
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Anda

Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Posts: 2199 Location: Jiangsu Province
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 10:57 am Post subject: Um |
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It's funny as once in South Korea I applied for a university position and actually got the position. I was told after I got the position that over 80% of the applicants that had applied hadn't checked out when their degree had been checked. This was the only place that I worked for that I know actually checked degree. |
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